All you lawyers saying $75mil was too high....

[Coach34]

Guess 75MM was indeed too much if she got 55MM- half of which will never be paid

[dawgs]

Guess 75MM was indeed too much if she got 55MM- half of which will never be paid

Is your problem with it really over seeking $75M instead of $55M? Because that just seems like splitting hairs and missing the forest for the trees imo.

And who wouldn't rather ask for too much and get some of that instead of asking for too little?

[Coach34]

Is your problem with it really over seeking $75M instead of $55M? Because that just seems like splitting hairs and missing the forest for the trees imo.

And who wouldn't rather ask for too much and get some of that instead of asking for too little?

I think the whole thing is ridiculous and she should have been awarded a couple million and thats it. She has profited from the video- whether she wanted to or not. Anything over $2MM is ridiculous

[dawgs]

I think the whole thing is ridiculous and she should have been awarded a couple million and thats it. She has profited from the video- whether she wanted to or not. Anything over $2MM is ridiculous

That's not a deterrent to the hotel to overhaul their system so that other stalkers can't figure out which rooms people are in by calling and asking to be connected through.

[Coach34]

That's not a deterrent to the hotel to overhaul their system so that other stalkers can't figure out which rooms people are in by calling and asking to be connected through.

I'm pretty sure this is an isolated incident and not a common occurance

[THE Bruce Dickinson]

I'm pretty sure this is an isolated incident and not a common occurance

I am pretty sure you have no facts to back up that statement.

Also, just because a person or person(s) profit from a bad situation, it does not mean that the wronged party doesn't deserve compensation from those who are responsible.

[missouridawg]

I'm pretty sure this is an isolated incident and not a common occurance

http://www.si.com/more-sports/2016/0...n-media-safety

[Coach34]

http://www.si.com/more-sports/2016/0...n-media-safety

This is the same thing thats been happening to men for years. Price of fame. Equal rights- men and women are equal- you know that right?

[missouridawg]

That's not a deterrent to the hotel to overhaul their system so that other stalkers can't figure out which rooms people are in by calling and asking to be connected through.

This what they're missing. After lawyers fees and taxes, EA will clear somewhere south of $10mil. She didn't do this for money. She did this to help prevent future rapes and peep shows.

[Dawgology]

This thread is absolutely useless without pics...

[Johnson85]

That's not a deterrent to the hotel to overhaul their system so that other stalkers can't figure out which rooms people are in by calling and asking to be connected through.

I'll never understand why people with attitudes like this aren't in business for themselves. You think hotel franchisees roll in enough money that they won't take corrective actions to prevent even a $1M loss? That's just 17ing insane. If you think a group franchising hotels can ignore a multimillion dollar loss, why in the 17 would you not be a hotel franchisee? I mean for 17s sake, all you have to do is raise a few million in capital, get a loan, and then you'll rake in so much money that you won't even bother to adjust your security policies when you suffer a $2M loss (plus attorneys fees) because it will be so minimal compared to your profits. If you believe this, why aren't you out knocking on doors trying to raise money to open a 17ing hotel?

But in the real world, not only are hotel franchises not insanely profitable, their insurance carrier is likely going to require their security measures to be fixed, or they are going to increase their premiums to where it doesn't make sense not to fix it.

[dawgs]

I'll never understand why people with attitudes like this aren't in business for themselves. You think hotel franchisees roll in enough money that they won't take corrective actions to prevent even a $1M loss? That's just 17ing insane. If you think a group franchising hotels can ignore a multimillion dollar loss, why in the 17 would you not be a hotel franchisee? I mean for 17s sake, all you have to do is raise a few million in capital, get a loan, and then you'll rake in so much money that you won't even bother to adjust your security policies when you suffer a $2M loss (plus attorneys fees) because it will be so minimal compared to your profits. If you believe this, why aren't you out knocking on doors trying to raise money to open a 17ing hotel?

But in the real world, not only are hotel franchises not insanely profitable, their insurance carrier is likely going to require their security measures to be fixed, or they are going to increase their premiums to where it doesn't make sense not to fix it.

The insurance companies will pressure them to correct the issues, because the insurance companies just paid out millions for them.

That said, auto makers regularly do cost-benefit analysis on parts recalls. The estimate how much they'll pay out in lawsuits/attorney's fees for the part failing, and they'll compare that to the cost of replacing the part. If they don't expect many lawsuits or big payouts to cost more than the recall replacement, they don't issue a recall. In this case, of the hotel only owed $2M in damages, maybe the estimate this is a once in a lifetime occurrence and it's not worth spending the money on a new phone system, more security, etc. but $26M gets their attention and if it happens again for the same reasons and they don't take any new measures to prevent it from happening, they'd owe a lot more the next time around. Suddenly now the updated system and new security costs less than the estimated cost of a future incident.

[Johnson85]

The insurance companies will pressure them to correct the issues, because the insurance companies just paid out millions for them.

The insurance company would pressure them to correct the issue because of paying a $2M judgment. I'm really curious as to how long you think it would take to get $2M in premiums from a hotel franchisee? Based on your statements, you really should either be starting your hotel or an insurance company. Because you obviously think they one or the other is just a license to 17ing print money.

That said, auto makers regularly do cost-benefit analysis on parts recalls. The estimate how much they'll pay out in lawsuits/attorney's fees for the part failing, and they'll compare that to the cost of replacing the part. If they don't expect many lawsuits or big payouts to cost more than the recall replacement, they don't issue a recall. In this case, of the hotel only owed $2M in damages, maybe the estimate this is a once in a lifetime occurrence and it's not worth spending the money on a new phone system, more security, etc. but $26M gets their attention and if it happens again for the same reasons and they don't take any new measures to prevent it from happening, they'd owe a lot more the next time around. Suddenly now the updated system and new security costs less than the estimated cost of a future incident.

Yes, car manufacturers (and really all manufacturers and to a lesser extent other businesses) constantly have to make trade-offs between costs, quality, and the preference of their customers/clients. It's not very helpful to compare absolute numbers between a car manufacturer that generates over a billion dollars of net income in a quarter to a hotel franchisee that might get $5M a year in net income.

But more importantly, how would you propose that hotels andor car manufacturers do their cost-benefit analysis? Don't you want them to compare actual costs and benefits? You don't want the cheapest available car to cost $100k and you don't want the cheapest available hotel room to cost $500. If a company's negligence caused enough damages that paying for them will bankrupt them, then that's the way it's supposed to work. But you don't want (or shouldn't want if you understand it) a system that routinely bankrupts companies not because of actual damages resulting from their negligence, but just because you think it puts a good incentive in place.

[maroonmania]

I think the whole thing is ridiculous and she should have been awarded a couple million and thats it. She has profited from the video- whether she wanted to or not. Anything over $2MM is ridiculous

I can see both sides. That amount of money for a grainy video that hasn't harmed her career is a little over the top BUT the hotel needs to understand how serious this was. With this particular case it was a sports personality's privacy and dignity that was violated but what if the guy had been out to do her real physical harm? I mean apparently the guy got access to the room somehow. What if his intentions had been to rape or even kill her? No doubt, the hotel security thing is a VERY serious matter.

[THE Bruce Dickinson]

This is the point. Thank You

[War Machine Dawg]

Is your problem with it really over seeking $75M instead of $55M? Because that just seems like splitting hairs and missing the forest for the trees imo.

And who wouldn't rather ask for too much and get some of that instead of asking for too little?

It's pretty easy to figure out C34 has serious issues when it comes to women. He needs to STFU and stick to sports and trolling Northern Miss.

[Coach34]

It's pretty easy to figure out C34 has serious issues when it comes to women. He needs to STFU and stick to sports and trolling Northern Miss.

oh hold on- I want to hear this. Serious issues how? I don't view women as the weaker, must be protected sex. They have more power than men will ever have.

Make me sure you respond to my issues