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    So what's the deal with Quay Evans and Nick James?

    I watched the video interview with Turner and all the other guys, and predictably Evans/James aren't in the interview. They talk about how they bring effort on some days and not on others. What gives here? Is this just the inevitable maturity process where these guys are second year players and they aren't ready, or is something else at work here?

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    Quay is supposedly coming along...James is much more spotty

    Both are kind of head cases
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    I have no idea but just reading between the lines it seems like there where some discipline and conditioning issues? I guess that could have slowed down the maturity process which could be why they aren't necessarily where you want them to be right now?

    Again I have no idea if that's true or not that's just a possible explanation. I really wanted to be hearing more about them at this point too though.

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    The light hasnt come on for quay yet. He isnt a head case though. Far from it. He will get there

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    The fact that both have shown signs of playing strong in spurts, whether it be in practice or games....tells me that they will eventually get it together. If not, they probably wouldn't still be here. Big guys like that aren't going to keep putting themselves through hell in practice and two a days if their heart isn't in the game. I think we see Quay step up and play a lot this year, and then I feel like Nick will follow suit once he sees that his buddy has picked it up a notch. Maybe by next year they will both decide to get conditioned and form a kick ass duo on the middle of that DLine for their Junior years.

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    You want a little crazy on the DL and LB, hopefully on gameday that channel everything into killing QBs and RBs.

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    No 5 star comes free, I suppose. I guess I just don't get it. You have the ability, just work hard, boom, you succeed. At least in some capacity.

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    I think they are both a year away, unfortunately. Which is OK as far as they go, but I think many people were expecting them to be dominate THIS year. Ain't happening. If we are dominate on the DL this year, it'll be because of P. Jones, Autry and Eulls.

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    I think Quay still has a chance to dominate this year.

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    These guys played last year when they should have redshirted. A year of redshirting would have gotten a lot of these problems out of their systems. They were too immature to play and now they're playing catch up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    These guys played last year when they should have redshirted. A year of redshirting would have gotten a lot of these problems out of their systems. They were too immature to play and now they're playing catch up.
    I think the main reason we DID play them last year was because it was questionable how long we can keep these guys in good standing in the program because of their immaturity. If we had taken football away from these 2 guys for a year last year who knows what trouble they would have gotten themselves into.

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    Redshirting doesnt take it away it's a year of preparation.
    Last edited by bulldawg28; 08-18-2013 at 05:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    . If we had taken football away from these 2 guys for a year last year who knows what trouble they would have gotten themselves into.
    They would have had to practice everyday- football would have still been there- just not on Saturday
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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    I think the main reason we DID play them last year was because it was questionable how long we can keep these guys in good standing in the program because of their immaturity. If we had taken football away from these 2 guys for a year last year who knows what trouble they would have gotten themselves into.
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    I really hope I am wrong, but I don't think I am wrong. Quay's development has always scared me. Million dollar body, I just hope his head can catch up.

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    they played because the staff fully expects both to go pro after 3 years. That's the only reason they played last year because they did not want to reward them for their effort coming into week 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    They would have had to practice everyday- football would have still been there- just not on Saturday
    Understood, but I think our coaches may have felt that these 2 guys would not have had the same focus without preparing for a game on Saturday. That is the only thing that makes sense because they obviously weren't ready as true freshmen to contribute significantly.

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    what I posted is not an opinion. it is a fact. they played because they only have them for 3 years.

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    Maroon post fact on this. Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Political Hack View Post
    what I posted is not an opinion. it is a fact. they played because they only have them for 3 years.
    What kind of year do you think they will have this year?? I thought Nick would move past Quay and perhaps be a starter this year but not sure now. Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggun View Post
    What kind of year do you think they will have this year?? I thought Nick would move past Quay and perhaps be a starter this year but not sure now. Thoughts?
    I think Quay is obviously ahead of Nick right now. I think Quay could have a year a lot like Autry did last year. I think Nick is going to have trouble with being in playing condition and until that happens he won't be getting as many snaps as he should. I think if they keep him fresh and use him in goal line situations he could really help out.

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