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The way I see it...
Mark em down:
South Alabama
South Carolina
Umass
Samford
UK
BYU
Should win:
Arkansas
Auburn
A&M
These we lose:
Alabama
LSU
And the Egg Bowl
No we we should win less than six barring catastrophic injuries. Hopefully we can squeeze 2/3 out of the tossups and then the Egg Bowl comes down to how pissed our team is at being embarrassed the last two years and if our new safeties coach can get our guys within 10 yards of the ball on a consistent basis.
I'll set our floor at 7 wins and ceiling at 9.
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You know by most of us predicting to lose the Eggbowl next year, could mean we shock ourselves. I know..wishful thinking. We'll just have to see how much of a competitor Fitzgerald is going to be. I think Mullen will be feeling plenty of pressure for the game next year.
I think we could beat SC pretty solid.
Auburn will be tough, but it's manageable at home.
Kentucky doesn't have enough playmakers.
Arky, A&M and BYU are winnable games for us, but I think we drop one.
For now, I see 8 wins. I'm sure I'll go back and forth on a game, or so, a dozen times between now and then.
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Originally Posted by
FISHDAWG
Auburn just signed the #1 juco QB to play next season
And, just six months ago, Auburn had a "Heisman Trophy" shoe-in for QB .. before the season even started. Just ask Barrett Sallee.
Coach34 .. "We're not hiring the ****ing Pirate at Miss State. GTFO"
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No excuse to lose to A&M next year. Sumlin has that program in a nose dive.
The shock win will be over OM in the EB.
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How many contributors is Ole Miss losing?
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Originally Posted by
Jack Lambert
How many contributors is Ole Miss losing?
Engram announced he is returning yesterday, Connor announced he is returning last week, & my guess is that Kelly does as well.
So that means they lose:
Kimchee - DL - Big loss. They will struggle to replace him because he was double teamed at all times. Speaks is good, but he ain't Kimchee
Treadwell - WR - Big loss, but they will be fine at WR w Stringfellow, Lodge, Adbeyojosodjf, Jefferson, & Pack
Tunsil - LT - Little will be good, but he'll be nowhere close to Tunsil as a freshman. Big loss
Lil Kim - LB - Minor loss
Jaylon Walton - RB - Pretty big loss. Played well this year & made their offense better
Trae Elston - S - Big loss, Emotional leader of defense?
Chief Brown - DB - Minor loss
CJ Johnson - LB - Minor loss. They'll replace him.
Channing Ward - DE - Minor loss
Mike Hilton - DB - HUGE LOSS. Maybe the biggest loss they have. Leader of their secondary .
Woodrow Hamilton - DT - Minor
Ben Still - C - Could be big. Experienced center's like Dillon Day matter.
Fahn Cooper - RT - BIG LOSS. Their tackles will take a big step back.
Cody Core - WR - Minor loss.
Isaac Gross - DT - Minor loss.
So, Ole Miss' secondary & offensive line will be depleted & they lose Jaylon Walton, who really came on for them late this season.
Ole Miss could be very similar to what we were this year. Good QB & WR play, questionable secondary, & a young OL that has issues. Ole Miss will take a step back, but they should be slightly better than us, due, for the most part Kelly.
Last edited by ShotgunDawg; 12-18-2015 at 12:00 PM.
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Engram announced he is returning yesterday, Connor announced he is returning last week, & my guess is that Kelly does as well.
So that mean they lose:
Kimchee - DL
Treadwell - WR
Tunsil - LT
Lil Kim - LB
Jaylon Walton - RB
Trae Elston - S
Chief Brown - DB
CJ Johnson - LB
Channing Ward - DE
Mike Hilton - DB
Woodrow Hamilton - DT
Ben Still - C
Fahn Cooper - RT
Cody Core - WR
Isaac Gross - DT
So, Ole Miss' secondary & offensive line will be depleted & they lose Jaylon Walton, who really came on for them late this season.
Ole Miss could be very similar to what we were this year. Good QB & WR play, questionable secondary, & a young OL that has issues. Ole Miss will stake a step back, but they should be slightly better than us, due, for the most part Kelly.
Aaron Morris
Justin bell
Seems they're losing a lot of olinemen
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UPig and Auburn return 15 or more starters- they will be good football teams next season
Kentucky returns 15 or more starters- they will be improved
We on the other hand- will not be an improved football team over 2015
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Aaron Morris
Justin bell
Seems they're losing a lot of olinemen
Didn't even list them. Their offensive line next year will be Little, Patterson, Taylor, ?, ?
That's a very young & questionable offensive line. There is talent, but it's young & inexperienced. Kelly could be running for his life.
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Absolutely.... and that could go either way. JUCO QBs are hit and miss because the talent level fluctuates from year to year. So in some years, the #1 JUCO QB could be Cam Newton or Chad Kelly, and, in other years, it could be a less than great QB. Overall, I'm glad we catch them early & it's at home.
Cam Newton and Chad Kelly started out at Florida and Clemson respectively so these were by no means "under the radar" QB talents. I don't know what the background is on the QB that Auburn just signed.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
UPig and Auburn return 15 or more starters- they will be good football teams next season
Kentucky returns 15 or more starters- they will be improved
We on the other hand- will not be an improved football team over 2015
I don't agree with Arkansas & Kentucky. Arkansas returns starters, but they lose their good players. You really think they just up and replace Allen, Henry, & maybe Collins?
Kentucky will be the same. They lose Towles. Just because you return 15 starters on a bad team, doesn't mean you are any good.
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Didn't even list them. Their offensive line next year will be Little, Patterson, Taylor, ?, ?
That's a very young & questionable offensive line. There is talent, but it's young & inexperienced. Kelly could be running for his life.
Conyers and Rawlings probably
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
I don't agree with Arkansas & Kentucky. Arkansas returns starters, but they lose their good players. You really think they just up and replace Allen, Henry, & maybe Collins?
Kentucky will be the same. They lose Towles. Just because you return 15 starters on a bad team, doesn't mean you are any good.
'15 Msu basketball
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Conyers and Rawlings probably
Yikes. I would feel much better about us competing with Ole Miss next year if Kelly wasn't returning. He's pretty damn good & I'm still have trouble coming to grips with how they just acquired him virtually unopposed in recruiting. Ridiculously lucky
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He's not rated the #1 Juco for no reason
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
UPig and Auburn return 15 or more starters- they will be good football teams next season
Kentucky returns 15 or more starters- they will be improved
We on the other hand- will not be an improved football team over 2015
I expect to be improved at OL, RB, TE, LB, S, and possibly WR. If we aren't improved at the first 5 positions listed, then we have glaring coaching deficits.
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
I don't agree with Arkansas & Kentucky. Arkansas returns starters, but they lose their good players. You really think they just up and replace Allen, Henry, & maybe Collins?
Kentucky will be the same. They lose Towles. Just because you return 15 starters on a bad team, doesn't mean you are any good.
I think with the way they run their offense- they certainly can replace what they lost. They return a very good TE and their leading WR. They have been recruiting well on the OL and at RB. They also return 9 or 10 starters on Defense. They don't have to have someone as good as Henry at TE to remain effective on offense
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Bothrops
I expect to be improved at OL, RB, TE, LB, S, and possibly WR. If we aren't improved at the first 5 positions listed, then we have glaring coaching deficits.
I don't see any way we will be improved at TE- we lost 2 good guys there and return almost no experience.
We won't be as good at QB, CB, and on the DL- and those 3 positions are huge
Last edited by Coach34; 12-18-2015 at 12:23 PM.
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Engram announced he is returning yesterday, Connor announced he is returning last week, & my guess is that Kelly does as well.
So that means they lose:
Kimchee - DL - Big loss. They will struggle to replace him because he was double teamed at all times. Speaks is good, but he ain't Kimchee
Treadwell - WR - Big loss, but they will be fine at WR w Stringfellow, Lodge, Adbeyojosodjf, Jefferson, & Pack
Tunsil - LT - Little will be good, but he'll be nowhere close to Tunsil as a freshman. Big loss
Lil Kim - LB - Minor loss
Jaylon Walton - RB - Pretty big loss. Played well this year & made their offense better
Trae Elston - S - Big loss, Emotional leader of defense?
Chief Brown - DB - Minor loss
CJ Johnson - LB - Minor loss. They'll replace him.
Channing Ward - DE - Minor loss
Mike Hilton - DB - HUGE LOSS. Maybe the biggest loss they have. Leader of their secondary .
Woodrow Hamilton - DT - Minor
Ben Still - C - Could be big. Experienced center's like Dillon Day matter.
Fahn Cooper - RT - BIG LOSS. Their tackles will take a big step back.
Cody Core - WR - Minor loss.
Isaac Gross - DT - Minor loss.
So, Ole Miss' secondary & offensive line will be depleted & they lose Jaylon Walton, who really came on for them late this season.
Ole Miss could be very similar to what we were this year. Good QB & WR play, questionable secondary, & a young OL that has issues. Ole Miss will take a step back, but they should be slightly better than us, due, for the most part Kelly.
I'm shocked Conner is coming back..
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
I think with the way they run their offense- they certainly can replace what they lost. They return a very good TE and their leading WR. They have been recruiting well on the OL and at RB. They also return 9 or 10 starters on Defense. They don't have to have someone as good as Henry at TE to remain effective on offense
I don't disagree, although Raleigh Williams, their best running back after Collins, was only a 3 star recruit.
Arkansas won't be bad, but I just don't see them improving. Our game vs them next year could be similar to the one we had in 2014 against them. Glad we have them at home.
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