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[msstate7]

Chipper Jones ?@RealCJ10
Funny how every time a Scott Boras client is close to signing, there appears a 'mystery team'! I'd call his bluff and offer 20 mil less.

[shoeless joe]

Y'all have lost y'all's minds. Strasburg's ceiling is much higher. Injury risk is similar imo (both with TJ history). In a hypothetical world, if the Braves could take either Zimmermann or strasburg tomorrow, y'all would rather have Zimmermann?

Yes...

[dawgs]

Chipper Jones ?@RealCJ10
Funny how every time a Scott Boras client is close to signing, there appears a 'mystery team'! I'd call his bluff and offer 20 mil less.

I'm sure GMs that consistently make good trades and signings are well versed in the games agents play.

[dawgs]

Yes...

Outside of being scared of another injury, there is literally no other reason to take Zimmermann. And as I said, Zimmermann had TJ surgery too.

[msstate7]

Outside of being scared of another injury, there is literally no other reason to take Zimmermann. And as I said, Zimmermann had TJ surgery too.

Except for similar results and Zimmermann is a class act while strasburg is a punk

[ShotgunDawg]

I'm sure GMs that consistently make good trades and signings are well versed in the games agents play.

Of course, the question, however, is if giving Max Scherzer a 7th year is a "good signing". Long term pitcher contracts almost exclusively don't work out.

If I were a GM, instead of giving Scherzer 7 years and 28/year, I'd rather give him 30+ mil per year for 4 or 5 years. It has a much better chance of working out well for your franchise long term, and the player may actually produce that much in the short term.

[dawgs]

Except for similar results and Zimmermann is a class act while strasburg is a punk

Link to strasburg acting like a punk, or else you are talking out of your ass. As someone that's watched strasburg pitch more than anyone else in here, I'm betting you are talking out your ass.

[Todd4State]

Of course, the question, however, is if giving Max Scherzer a 7th year is a "good signing". Long term pitcher contracts almost exclusively don't work out.

If I were a GM, instead of giving Scherzer 7 years and 28/year, I'd rather give him 30+ mil per year for 4 or 5 years. It has a much better chance of working out well for your franchise long term, and the player may actually produce that much in the short term.

I would give him five and then a club option or two. They would probably settle for that.

[Todd4State]

Chipper Jones ?@RealCJ10
Funny how every time a Scott Boras client is close to signing, there appears a 'mystery team'! I'd call his bluff and offer 20 mil less.

Chipper nailed it. Lol.

[dawgs]

Of course, the question, however, is if giving Max Scherzer a 7th year is a "good signing". Long term pitcher contracts almost exclusively don't work out.

If I were a GM, instead of giving Scherzer 7 years and 28/year, I'd rather give him 30+ mil per year for 4 or 5 years. It has a much better chance of working out well for your franchise long term, and the player may actually produce that much in the short term.

Signing a pitcher until age 37-38 is much much better than signing a bat until he's 40 in modern MLB. Scherzer might not be at his best throughout the life of the deal, but if he can learn to pitch without K'ing 10+ guys per 9IP as he ages, no reason he couldn't be a Roy Halliday or Hudson type in the last 3 or so years of that deal.

[Todd4State]

It sounds like the deal is done. Scherzer to the Nats.

[msstate7]

11:24 AM
@TylerKepner
Had hunch Scherzer would try for record contract for RHP. He got it from Nationals, and deal sounds like $200M+, with significant deferrals.

[msstate7]

Max Scherzer?s deal with the Washington Nationals is reportedly for 7 years, $210M with half of it deferred?that?s $15M for 14 years.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...ments-reaction

Weird contract

[Dawg61]

Max Scherzer?s deal with the Washington Nationals is reportedly for 7 years, $210M with half of it deferred?that?s $15M for 14 years.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...ments-reaction

Weird contract

What? They gave him a Bobby Bonilla contract. Hahahaha STUPID!!!

[BoomBoom]

Of course, the question, however, is if giving Max Scherzer a 7th year is a "good signing". Long term pitcher contracts almost exclusively don't work out.

If I were a GM, instead of giving Scherzer 7 years and 28/year, I'd rather give him 30+ mil per year for 4 or 5 years. It has a much better chance of working out well for your franchise long term, and the player may actually produce that much in the short term.

As a GM, if they don't win a WS he's probably fired, so who cares if the next GM is saddled with a Bobby B contract?

[msstate7]

Adding scherzer and trading stras or zim is negligible imorovement at best imo. This trade equals buying prospects they get from stras/zim trade to me

[dawgs]

As a GM, if they don't win a WS he's probably fired, so who cares if the next GM is saddled with a Bobby B contract?

Nats are probably planning on TV revenue only going up, and they already have deep pockets. The deal still gives them a little more immediate flexibility with the high likelihood their revenues will go up enough in the next 14 years to make the deferred payments without missing a beat. It's like interest free financing for the nats.

[ShotgunDawg]

David Cameron @DCameronFG ? 21h 21 hours ago
So basically the Lerners are borrowing Max Scherzer from whoever they sell the Nationals to in the next 10 years.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/max-s...t-210-million/

[dawgs]

David Cameron @DCameronFG ? 21h 21 hours ago
So basically the Lerners are borrowing Max Scherzer from whoever they sell the Nationals to in the next 10 years.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/max-s...t-210-million/

There's no information indicating the lerners want to sell the team. But this is a great breakdown of actually value in 2014 terms, and the deal isn't as mindblowing as the raw numbers immediately suggest.