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    best recruiting class ever for MSU?

    I was looking at classes and noticed just how good the 2009 class was. I'm looking at production, not ranking at the time of signing or potential. Straight out production at a high level. Have we ever had a better class top to bottom? If you ranked these guys, you would still have a helluva player when you got to #15 or #16.

    Brandon Heavens - nice contributor for 4 years
    Mardrecas Hood - didn't show
    Ricco Sanders - done nothing
    Billy Hamilton - future MLB star?
    Darius Slay - went to JUCO then we resigned - badass NFL
    LaDarius Perkins - one of top returning RB's in country
    Dennis Thames - potential then trouble
    Chad Bumphis - best wideout for 4 straight years
    Pernell McPhee - JUCO badass NFL
    Johnathan McKenzie - could have been bigtime
    Leon Berry - solid JUCO immediate starter
    Sean Brauchle - solid JUCO immediate starter
    Maurice Langston - ???
    Heath Hutchins - solid JUCO immediate starter
    Montrell Conner - transferred after redshirting
    Gabe Jackson - one of top guards in country, OL anchor
    Chris White - JUCO badass
    William Shumpert - got hurt
    Deontae Skinner - defensive stalwart for 3 years
    Josh Boyd - defensive stalwart for 3-4 years NFL
    Nickoe Whitley - defensive stalwart for 3-4 years
    Fletcher Cox - nothing needs to be said
    Johnthan Banks - nothing needs to be said
    Chris Smith - solid 4 year player
    Tyler Russell- patiently redshirted and learned, set records last year
    Cameron Lawrence -nothing needs to be said
    Sam Watts - bust

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    In hindsight, no doubt about it. Great class. I can tell you who supposedly dominated us that signing day too

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    Coaching has so much to do with success. Talent can't be created, but it can be nurtured. There are lots of teams that have made decent runs with 3-4 star talent, which is what we have since Mullen came into the picture pretty consistently over the last two seasons at any rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pollodawg View Post
    Coaching has so much to do with success. Talent can't be created, but it can be nurtured. There are lots of teams that have made decent runs with 3-4 star talent
    The problem is the people evaluating and rating the talent coming out of HS dont necessarily do a good job.

    And to the OP- Chris White is in the NFL also
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    I'm hoping to get similar production out of the defensive class of 2012. Ryan Brown, Quay Evans, Nick James, AJ Jefferson, Beniquez Brown, Richie Brown, Cedric Jiles, Will Redmond. Could be a special bunch.

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    Seems reasonable IMO...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    The problem is the people evaluating and rating the talent coming out of HS dont necessarily do a good job.

    And to the OP- Chris White is in the NFL also
    My original post was a little ambiguous. That is actually my point. People look at Chris Relf and think: TE. Mullen won 9 games with him at the helm and would have done just as good in 2011 had the injury bug not bitten us where the sun don't shine. A two star QB and a RB that no one else really wanted took us farther than some of these highly rated guys.

    Oh, and lets not forget the two star QB we made into a LB named Benardrick McKinney who is--pound for pound--one of most athletic people on the team. Or Dillon Day, acknowledged as one fo the best centers in the SEC.


    That's why I don't contemplate slitting my wrist ever February when the real season starts for the bears.

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    It would be cool if a 247 did a post mortem ranking of all the classes 5 years after signing day. It would be based on career stats. I'm not even sure NFL draft status should count since the league looks for things that don't necessarily equate to college success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlabLoser View Post
    It would be cool if a 247 did a post mortem ranking of all the classes 5 years after signing day. It would be based on career stats. I'm not even sure NFL draft status should count since the league looks for things that don't necessarily equate to college success.
    I agree. Stars don't matter if they don't produce (Chris Strong, Tig Barksdale at Ole Miss for example). I don't know how the 2009 class stacked up in production with all of our other classes because I didn't look very hard. However, it was extremely deep. It had stars (J. Banks, Fletcher Cox), but it also had depth. There were roughly 18 guys who contributed during their entire career (2 years for JUCO and 3-4 for high school). Admittedly, the lack of talent Croom left on the roster made it easier for some to see the field earlier than normal, but these guys battled and have bowl games to show for it. We've had a lot of classes where the 10th or 12th most productive player in the class was simply an average backup.

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    That class was chock full of NFL talent.

    We'll have to wait another year or so to get the final tally, but it is impressive already.

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