MSU big four vs. Ole Miss big four- who would you rather have?

[Todd4State]

Jamaal Clayborn vs. Tunsil

Bear Wilson vs. Treadwell

Chris Jones vs. Nkemdiche

Ashton Shumpert vs. Tony Conner





Clayborn- three star, but played as a freshman at guard. Likely starts this year at LG and has a very high upside.

Wilson- three star that was under the radar because he played basketball. Is 6'5" 225 ish and was one of our top go to WR's by the end of the year along with Jameon.

Jones- five star who blew up in the recruiting world. Very solid freshman year and looks to improve.

Shumpert- four star and I picked him to compare a top Mississippi recruit vs. a top Mississippi recruit in Conner. Had a solid start as the number three guy and is poised to be number two with Robinson. Scored a few TD's in blow outs, but very high upside.


And then...

Tunsil- Three year type talent at the premium position on the o-line, and was very solid but battled injuries.

Treadwell- Put up good numbers- but mostly on screens. Some questions about his ability to catch passes downfield at this point in time.

Nkemdiche- Very similar numbers to Jones, but also has had some disciplinary issues.

Conner- Very solid season as a freshman and will be a solid four year starter and potential all-SEC player.

[chef dixon]

Tunsil, Treadwell, Jones, and at least for the moment Conner, but that could easily change this year.

[Coach34]

I'm gonna go with Clayborn over Tunsil- Tunsil got hurt twice last year and then banged up in the Spring game. He has played very well at times- but Clayborn is going to show out these next 3 years. He was solid as a true freshman- and has had a great Spring going against Jones day after day.

Treadwell over Wilson. Treadwell is more polished. Wilson is going to get better and better and will be a force- possibly even a better NFL player overall, but Treadwell is the better player RIGHT NOW.

Jones over Kimchee. Not even real close

Conner over Shump. Conner is a 3 year guy on defense and then NFL. I think Shump chose wrong. Shump will be a solid to good SEC RB, but he could have been a great LB/SS on defense.

[RossDawg82]

Treadwell had a great year. I wasn't as impressed with his numbers as I was with his effort. He is in my opinion the best recruit ole miss has ever had. Other than that I take state players hands down. Jones and Wilson are going to the gems of that class. Both will break a lot of records here

[ShotgunDawg]

Tunsil, Conner, Jones, Treadwell.

Problem for Ole Miss is that, other than kicker, those may be the only positions on their entire team that are better than our corresponding position.

[messageboardsuperhero]

I'm gonna go with Clayborn over Tunsil- Tunsil got hurt twice last year and then banged up in the Spring game. He has played very well at times- but Clayborn is going to show out these next 3 years. He was solid as a true freshman- and has had a great Spring going against Jones day after day.

Treadwell over Wilson. Treadwell is more polished. Wilson is going to get better and better and will be a force- possibly even a better NFL player overall, but Treadwell is the better player RIGHT NOW.

Jones over Kimchee. Not even real close

Conner over Shump. Conner is a 3 year guy on defense and then NFL. I think Shump chose wrong. Shump will be a solid to good SEC RB, but he could have been a great LB/SS on defense.

I agree with pretty much all of this. If this is by college production, Clayborne will likely be great here for three more full years, and Tunsil will only be there for two more years (and he probably won't be healthy for that entire two years).

[hailmari]

I agree.. An argument could be made for Cody Prewitt. Maybe.

[msstate7]

I agree.. An argument could be made for Cody Prewitt. Maybe.

I would take prewitt in a heartbeat. Love his physical play

[Homedawg]

Guys, he's talking about 4 guys that are all going into their soph year. Thus the comparison.

[shoeless joe]

I take the work ethic and overall attitude and commitment of our guys on all choices given...and those things mean a whole heckuva lot when trying to build a winning team

Based solely on talent: tunsil, treadwell, jones, and the last one is close but based on on field production gotta take Conner.

[DCdawg]

Tunsil, Wilson, Jones, Conner

[Big4Dawg]

Can someone find OM's whole depth chart?

Here is a poster from Rant who said this is the "All-Mississippi" team. As you can tell, he has no clue what he's talking about.


"Mississippi

OFFENSE
Quarterback: Tough...Bo Wallace for the experience alone, but I'm not 100%. A solid full season of starts by Dak may prove his worth to me.
Running Back: I'Tavius Mathers
Wide Receiver: Laquon Treadwell
Wide Receiver: Quincy Adeboyejo
Wide Receiver: Jameon Lewis
Tight End: Evan Engram
Left Tackle: Laremy Tunsil
Left Guard: Aaron Morris
Center: Dillon Day
Right Guard: I dunno...With Gabe Jackson gone who does State have now? We don't really have another no-brainer pick to go here.
Right Tackle: Austin Golson

DEFENSE
Defensive End: CJ Johnson
Defensive Tackle: Chris Jones
Defensive Tackles: Robert Nkemdiche
Defensive End: Fadol Brown...or if State has some beastly DE that I don't know about get them.
Outside Linebacker: Cody Prewitt
Middle Linebacker: Benardrick McKinney
Outside Linebacker: Serdarius Bryant
Cornerback: Derrick Jones
Safety: Kendrick Market
Safety: Tony Conner
Cornerback: Senquez Golson

SPECIAL TEAMS
Punt Returner: Jameon Lewis
Kick Returner: Jaylen Walton/Jameon Lewis
Punter: Will Gleeson
Kicker: Gary Wunderlich


Moved an All-American Safety, Cody Prewitt, to OLB because I think that's his position at the next level. Replaced him with Market, who I think is a solid Safety.

I'll admit, I only really know the stars from MSU. Chris Jones, McKinney and Lewis are obvious takes. They're ballers. Dillon Day is a great center with experience."

[Will James]

Tunsil
Conner
Jones
Treadwell

Jones is the best of the group though.

[Coach34]

C34 say:

OFFENSE
Quarterback: Dakota Prescott
Running Back: Josh Robinson
Wide Receiver: Laquon Treadwell
Wide Receiver: Bear Wilson
Wide Receiver: Jameon Lewis or Adebayo- solid 4 top WR's
Tight End: Push on Johnson and Engram
Left Tackle: Blaine Clausell (he will stay healthy and is a 4 yr starter)
Left Guard: ​Push on Clayborn and Morris
Center: Dillon Day
Right Guard: Push
Right Tackle: Austin Golson

DEFENSE
Defensive End: CJ Johnson
Defensive Tackle: Chris Jones
Defensive Tackles: Robert Nkemdiche
Defensive End: Preston Smith
Outside Linebacker: Matthew Wells
Middle Linebacker: Benardrick McKinney
Outside Linebacker: Serdarius Bryant
Cornerback: Taveze Calhoun
Safety: Cody Prewitt
Safety: Tony Conner
Cornerback: Will Redmond

My picks were based on what I think their performance will be in 2014- not anything else.

[Todd4State]

Maybe someone should tell that guy about our beastly DE named Preston Smith who was the defensive MVP in the Liberty Bowl.

[Bothrops]

Wallace should never be picked over Prescott, even in a hypothetical. He does nothing better than Dak, except look and act like a girl.

[Homedawg]

Can someone find OM's whole depth chart?

Here is a poster from Rant who said this is the "All-Mississippi" team. As you can tell, he has no clue what he's talking about.


"Mississippi

OFFENSE
Quarterback: Tough...Bo Wallace for the experience alone, but I'm not 100%. A solid full season of starts by Dak may prove his worth to me.
Running Back: I'Tavius Mathers
Wide Receiver: Laquon Treadwell
Wide Receiver: Quincy Adeboyejo
Wide Receiver: Jameon Lewis
Tight End: Evan Engram
Left Tackle: Laremy Tunsil
Left Guard: Aaron Morris
Center: Dillon Day
Right Guard: I dunno...With Gabe Jackson gone who does State have now? We don't really have another no-brainer pick to go here.
Right Tackle: Austin Golson

DEFENSE
Defensive End: CJ Johnson
Defensive Tackle: Chris Jones
Defensive Tackles: Robert Nkemdiche
Defensive End: Fadol Brown...or if State has some beastly DE that I don't know about get them.
Outside Linebacker: Cody Prewitt
Middle Linebacker: Benardrick McKinney
Outside Linebacker: Serdarius Bryant
Cornerback: Derrick Jones
Safety: Kendrick Market
Safety: Tony Conner
Cornerback: Senquez Golson

SPECIAL TEAMS
Punt Returner: Jameon Lewis
Kick Returner: Jaylen Walton/Jameon Lewis
Punter: Will Gleeson
Kicker: Gary Wunderlich


Moved an All-American Safety, Cody Prewitt, to OLB because I think that's his position at the next level. Replaced him with Market, who I think is a solid Safety.

I'll admit, I only really know the stars from MSU. Chris Jones, McKinney and Lewis are obvious takes. They're ballers. Dillon Day is a great center with experience."

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[messageboardsuperhero]

Can someone find OM's whole depth chart?

Here is a poster from Rant who said this is the "All-Mississippi" team. As you can tell, he has no clue what he's talking about.


"Mississippi

OFFENSE
Quarterback: Tough...Bo Wallace for the experience alone, but I'm not 100%. A solid full season of starts by Dak may prove his worth to me.
Running Back: I'Tavius Mathers
Wide Receiver: Laquon Treadwell
Wide Receiver: Quincy Adeboyejo
Wide Receiver: Jameon Lewis
Tight End: Evan Engram
Left Tackle: Laremy Tunsil
Left Guard: Aaron Morris
Center: Dillon Day
Right Guard: I dunno...With Gabe Jackson gone who does State have now? We don't really have another no-brainer pick to go here.
Right Tackle: Austin Golson

DEFENSE
Defensive End: CJ Johnson
Defensive Tackle: Chris Jones
Defensive Tackles: Robert Nkemdiche
Defensive End: Fadol Brown...or if State has some beastly DE that I don't know about get them.
Outside Linebacker: Cody Prewitt
Middle Linebacker: Benardrick McKinney
Outside Linebacker: Serdarius Bryant
Cornerback: Derrick Jones
Safety: Kendrick Market
Safety: Tony Conner
Cornerback: Senquez Golson

SPECIAL TEAMS
Punt Returner: Jameon Lewis
Kick Returner: Jaylen Walton/Jameon Lewis
Punter: Will Gleeson
Kicker: Gary Wunderlich


Moved an All-American Safety, Cody Prewitt, to OLB because I think that's his position at the next level. Replaced him with Market, who I think is a solid Safety.

I'll admit, I only really know the stars from MSU. Chris Jones, McKinney and Lewis are obvious takes. They're ballers. Dillon Day is a great center with experience."

I stopped at I'Tavius Mathers.

ETA: Holy shit, he chose those corners? What a joke. We have 3-4 corners on our roster better than Golson and Jones.

[Pollodawg]

Dak's arm is every bit as good as Bo's and his legs are way, way better.

[Todd4State]

Dak's arm is every bit as good as Bo's and his legs are way, way better.

Understatement. The other thing about Dak is he can create and move in the pocket.