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    He has us in a better position than I thought he would. If we go back to sucking again next year, which I think is likely, we will be back at square one.

    It comes down to recruiting for me and he is a subpar recruiter.

    If he can continue this success next year I will be on board throughout the rest of his career here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoreCowbell View Post
    It comes down to recruiting for me and he is a subpar recruiter.
    We will be top 3-4 in the SEC in draft picks this July. This is a dumb take. We have 7 guys guaranteed to be drafted. That means he is bringing talent to Starkville
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    We will be top 3-4 in the SEC in draft picks this July. This is a dumb take. We have 7 guys guaranteed to be drafted. That means he is bringing talent to Starkville
    Your draft pick take is more of an indictment on Lemonis to me. You speak of all this talent so why weren’t we kickin ass from day 1 this year? It does seem he’s finally putting some things together though. I know injuries can make it harder through the season too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bdawg View Post
    Your draft pick take is more of an indictment on Lemonis to me. You speak of all this talent so why weren’t we kickin ass from day 1 this year? It does seem he’s finally putting some things together though. I know injuries can make it harder through the season too
    Same reason Saban struggled early in the 2023 season and still ended up in the playoffs. Every team has to find their way
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Same reason Saban struggled early in the 2023 season and still ended up in the playoffs. Every team has to find their way
    That didnt seem to be one of Saban’s most talented teams. 7 draft picks seems like a fairly loaded team to me. Wonder how many draft picks on AR team right now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bdawg View Post
    That didnt seem to be one of Saban’s most talented teams. 7 draft picks seems like a fairly loaded team to me. Wonder how many draft picks on AR team right now?
    I havent checked but their Friday night SP is likely off the board in the Top 10 picks
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    Here is where people miss on their takes about Lemon.

    Right or wrong- His problem to me is that he is too loyal to his recruits. Chance starts in LF because Lemon recruited him and didnt want to replace him with a portal guy. He even said as much in an interview-why would he spend money on various pitchers when we have more talented guys already on campus? He relies on his recruiting much more than he values bringing in various guys from the portal. His view is we need to add a couple of guys from the portal to supplement recruiting.

    Now then- this is what will probably get him fired. But that is his view. We arent failing in the portal- we arent using it and believe in it like we should.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Here is where people miss on their takes about Lemon.

    Right or wrong- His problem to me is that he is too loyal to his recruits. Chance starts in LF because Lemon recruited him and didnt want to replace him with a portal guy. He even said as much in an interview-why would he spend money on various pitchers when we have more talented guys already on campus? He relies on his recruiting much more than he values bringing in various guys from the portal. His view is we need to add a couple of guys from the portal to supplement recruiting.

    Now then- this is what will probably get him fired. But that is his view. We arent failing in the portal- we arent using it and believe in it like we should.
    Well that’s dumb on his part. You go out and get the best you can no matter what. How many years we been trying to get a third baseman. It’s turned into being plum embarrassing. He better learn to supplement with some some studs if he likes his job! And if he wants to be loyal to HIS players, then evaluate, recruit, and develop some damn good ones!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bdawg View Post
    Well that’s dumb on his part. You go out and get the best you can no matter what. How many years we been trying to get a third baseman. It’s turned into being plum embarrassing. He better learn to supplement with some some studs if he likes his job!
    I agree with you completely
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Here is where people miss on their takes about Lemon.

    Right or wrong- His problem to me is that he is too loyal to his recruits. Chance starts in LF because Lemon recruited him and didnt want to replace him with a portal guy. He even said as much in an interview-why would he spend money on various pitchers when we have more talented guys already on campus? He relies on his recruiting much more than he values bringing in various guys from the portal. His view is we need to add a couple of guys from the portal to supplement recruiting.

    Now then- this is what will probably get him fired. But that is his view. We arent failing in the portal- we arent using it and believe in it like we should.
    It's kind of tricky. Because you have recruits and you know they need time to develop. But you also have to have experienced guys to win. If it's not handled correctly teams- not just MSU- run the risk of running off say Hunter Renfroe. That sort of happened to us with Shane Lewis who ended up at Troy and hit 20+ home runs there and would have been much better than Alford last year. I also will say if we had landed Montgomery there is no way Chance would be starting in the OF right now so that sounds like some politcizing to a degree by Lemons. Why would a coach come out and publicly say that they were recruiting over a player? And it's not like Chance has been THAT bad anyway. He has hit better than Kohler, the two catchers, and Larry. If nothing else he at least makes contact usually and makes them field something.
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