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Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
I gotcha. Yeah I can get where it could look "long" but Freddie is really short and quick to the ball. But yeah he's a big tall dude for sure.
The actual mechanics of the trigger and the swing through contact is compact and fast. I think it is the illusion created by their long arms getting full extension and "long" follow through. A lot of tall lefties (Freddie, Will, Griffey) give you that sweet, "long" swing.
The funniest thing to me is how almost the exact same situation with a rightie just doesn't look as sweet. Think Dale Murphy. I was watching Condon this weekend. He doesn't have the low bat "Waggle" before getting set - but his stride and movement through the ball remind me of Murph's swing.
"After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
- Tom Mars, Esq. 4.9.18
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Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
The actual mechanics of the trigger and the swing through contact is compact and fast. I think it is the illusion created by their long arms getting full extension and "long" follow through. A lot of tall lefties (Freddie, Will, Griffey) give you that sweet, "long" swing.
The funniest thing to me is how almost the exact same situation with a rightie just doesn't look as sweet. Think Dale Murphy. I was watching Condon this weekend. He doesn't have the low bat "Waggle" before getting set - but his stride and movement through the ball remind me of Murph's swing.
Good stuff and you're right, Bruns! Yeah you never hear say a righty with a sweet swing lol! There was one righty who i used to love watching his swing and I studied and that was Edgar Martinez. That dude had a great swing and he could rake. That Condon is a beast!
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Originally Posted by
The Federalist Engineer
A unique and fascinating tall lefty (6'-6") Darryl Strawberry. Not a 'great' hitter, but you don't get 17 MLB seasons without the tools. Slow-Mo, that's a "long swing". I wonder about DS with Barry Bonds juice, instead of the actual awful things he did to his body.
But as a Right-Handed Hitter myself, I wanted to be Gary Sheffield. That was a Righ-Handed Stud swing. Considered the fastest bat in the last 50 years.
Man those are some really good finds! Strawberry had so much potential but the addictions turned what could've been a HOF career into just a good one. He did have a long stroke but man the bat speed was insane on that dude!
Sheffield swung a big bat and generated so much freaking bat speed and was comparatively speaking little guy at 5'11" 190 but so strong and compact! You would never teach anyone Sheffields approact but he sure as heck made it work and with all that power the most he ever struck out was 83 times in a season and that was at the end of his career. It seems like every ball he hit was a missle! I hated it when he left the Braves.
ETA Another thing about Sheffield is you wold think you could get him out by throwing soft away but that dude could cover the whole plate. If he was playing today with all the high velo guys throwing he might hit 60 hrs and hit balls to the moon!
Last edited by Commercecomet24; 04-29-2024 at 10:38 AM.
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Originally Posted by
The Federalist Engineer
But as a Right-Handed Hitter myself, I wanted to be Gary Sheffield. That was a Right-Handed Stud swing. Considered the fastest bat in the last 50 years.
Loved Sheff. His swing and approach always reminded me of my very first favorite Atlanta Brave - Gary Matthews. Sarge had quick hands like Sheff and could yank those inside pitches. His swing wasn't as violent as Sheff's. But, they both had bat "waggles" before getting set.
"After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
- Tom Mars, Esq. 4.9.18
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Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
Loved Sheff. His swing and approach always reminded me of my very first favorite Atlanta Brave - Gary Matthews. Sarge had quick hands like Sheff and could yank those inside pitches. His swing wasn't as violent as Sheff's. But, they both had bat "waggles" before getting set.
Boy you're taking me back in my memories now. The Sarge was very similar to Matthews but as you said not near as violent. You had to know a lot of pitchers were intimidated by Sheffield, dude was menacing at the plate with that bat waggle. It's so amazing to me that, Sheffield with all that violence in his swing didn't K hardly at all. Just an amazing hitter. Matthews was such a great teammate and player. Everyone loved the guy!
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Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
Boy you're taking me back in my memories now. The Sarge was very similar to Matthews but as you said not near as violent. You had to know a lot of pitchers were intimidated by Sheffield, dude was menacing at the plate with that bat waggle. It's so amazing to me that, Sheffield with all that violence in his swing didn't K hardly at all. Just an amazing hitter. Matthews was such a great teammate and player. Everyone loved the guy!
Sheffield was a nightmare at the plate if he was facing your team. It just always felt like when you needed to get him out he would put it in the left field bleachers. It was fun those 2 years he was with the Braves because he was finally on my team.
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Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
Boy you're taking me back in my memories now. The Sarge was very similar to Matthews but as you said not near as violent. You had to know a lot of pitchers were intimidated by Sheffield, dude was menacing at the plate with that bat waggle. It's so amazing to me that, Sheffield with all that violence in his swing didn't K hardly at all. Just an amazing hitter. Matthews was such a great teammate and player. Everyone loved the guy!
Glue Guy. He about willed the '84 Cubs to the Playoffs on his own. So well respected that a guy who hit .291; .410 OBP; 14 HR and 82 RBI's placed 5th in the MVP voting.
"After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
- Tom Mars, Esq. 4.9.18
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Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
Glue Guy. He about willed the '84 Cubs to the Playoffs on his own. So well respected that a guy who hit .291; .410 OBP; 14 HR and 82 RBI's placed 5th in the MVP voting.
He was one of those players every successful team has to have. Not the superstar or most talented, but the leader in the clubhouse and the guy who always makes the big play when needed. He was one of those players everyone respected and looked up to.
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