Baseball NC One Year & Bottom Of SEC the Next (No Hoover)

[somebodyshotmypaw]

We won the NC in 2021 and no Hoover in 2022 or 2023.

OM won the NC in 2022 and no Hoover in 2023.

LSU won the NC in 2023 and may not make Hoover this year.

Do any of these programs have anything in common dropping so far after the NC or just something weird?

They do have one thing that is different. We were dominant that year. LSU was dominant as well. We were both damn good teams. Ole Miss however almost didn’t make a regional. They barely got in. They weren’t good. Then they got in and got hot and went on a run.

The portal has changed things. Being able to add a Colton Ledbetter, Connor Hujsak, Kal Stephen, Paul Skenes, Braden Montgomery, changes things. I agree with Todd that it brings some parity.

[cujo]

They do have one thing that is different. We were dominant that year. LSU was dominant as well. We were both damn good teams. Ole Miss however almost didn?t make a regional. They barely got in. They weren?t good. Then they got in and got hot and went on a run.

The portal has changed things. Being able to add a Colton Ledbetter, Connor Hujsak, Kal Stephen, Paul Skenes, Braden Montgomery, changes things. I agree with Todd that it brings some parity.

In 2022, we could've won a regional at least if not for the devastating pitching injuries, especially to Sims.
He was the best pitcher in the nation, not just our #1.

[R2Dawg]

In 2022, we could've won a regional at least if not for the devastating pitching injuries, especially to Sims.
He was the best pitcher in the nation, not just our #1.

That is fact. He got hurt against Tulane in one of the best pitching performances of the year then we went on to lose game. 22 turns out different if Sims don't get hurt, no doubt.

[StarkVegasSteve]

That is fact. He got hurt against Tulane in one of the best pitching performances of the year then we went on to lose game. 22 turns out different if Sims don't get hurt, no doubt.

No we won that game in a run rule. We beat them 19-2. We lost the next two. Landon going down hurt but it just exposed a further issue that he held our bullpen together the year before and we did nothing to address it.

[DownwardDawg]

In 2022, we could've won a regional at least if not for the devastating pitching injuries, especially to Sims.
He was the best pitcher in the nation, not just our #1.

We were going to Omaha in 22 if it had not been for pitching injuries. We lost more than just Sims.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

We were going to Omaha in 22 if it had not been for pitching injuries. We lost more than just Sims.

Our offense and defense were sub SEC average that year. So even if you want to say our pitching would have been say, 5th without the injuries (doubtful given how awful of an in game manager Fox was) we'd have still been roughly middle of the pack overall.

[R2Dawg]

They do have one thing that is different. We were dominant that year. LSU was dominant as well. We were both damn good teams. Ole Miss however almost didn?t make a regional. They barely got in. They weren?t good. Then they got in and got hot and went on a run.

The portal has changed things. Being able to add a Colton Ledbetter, Connor Hujsak, Kal Stephen, Paul Skenes, Braden Montgomery, changes things. I agree with Todd that it brings some parity.

This is true. Also OM had the easiest road every to win a NC - they are only team to win it that didn't play a national seed in Omaha to win NC. They were the luckiest team of all time in 22 to win it.

Whew, so glad we won one first. Can you imagine how bad it would be if we had not?

[TheLostDawg]

This is true. Also OM had the easiest road every to win a NC - they are only team to win it that didn't play a national seed in Omaha to win NC. They were the luckiest team of all time in 22 to win it.

Whew, so glad we won one first. Can you imagine how bad it would be if we had not?

This and we benefited from covid rule having additional great players, Vandy didn't have the advantage anymore. Lsu as above. Basically a guaranteed game one win each week plus having the best players on essentially two teams to pick from.

Saban had the best facilities, more staff, more money for players. Alabama went all in. We are still behind other in support when it comes to many things. The one advantage we do have is fan support showing up to games.

[Todd4State]

This and we benefited from covid rule having additional great players, Vandy didn't have the advantage anymore. Lsu as above. Basically a guaranteed game one win each week plus having the best players on essentially two teams to pick from.

Saban had the best facilities, more staff, more money for players. Alabama went all in. We are still behind other in support when it comes to many things. The one advantage we do have is fan support showing up to games.

Everyone else had that same advantage too. Actually, we lost Foscue, Westburg, and Ginn in their money year so you could make an argument we actually got screwed. We probably could have used Spencer Price and Carlisle Koestler more than we did honestly. We were basically down to four reliable pitchers at the end of the year thanks to Foxhall.