Mississippi State Baseball Expectations

[StarkVegasSteve]

And we are here now bc of an unfathomable miss rate. I am glad we are better than 13th and 14th place. But that aint hard to do

Every team has misses. We are not immune to them. Go look at LSU this year, I think they would trade Holman in a heartbeat for Khal Stephen.

[Santiago]

Every team has misses. We are not immune to them. Go look at LSU this year, I think they would trade Holman in a heartbeat for Khal Stephen.

LSU now has the number 1 recruiting class for 2024.

We have had 3 years of nothing great, and now this lineup is mostly gone after this season.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

This is such a stawman argument. Nobody is saying 2011-2021 is the norm and we'll fire any coach that doesn't immediately live up to the expectations.

But even if they were, that has NOTHING to do with Lemo. He missed the postseason entirely these past 2 years. This year, he'll probably make the tourney but as a bubble team and we're going to have to keep an eye on the wins column till the last weekend.

Is that acceptable as the standard? Miss tourney year 4, miss tourney year 5, make tourney with no room to spare year 6 = "hell yeah let's bring him back for year 7!"?

[Coach34]

This is such a stawman argument. Nobody is saying 2011-2021 is the norm and we'll fire any coach that doesn't immediately live up to the expectations.

Q literally posted that the last 10 years should pretty much be that standard

We are not a bubble team currently. Strong 2 seed. Florida and Bama are the bubble teams currently

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Q literally posted that the last 10 years should pretty much be that standard

We are not a bubble team currently. Strong 2 seed. Florida and Bama are the bubble teams currently

In no world is our unranked #40 RPI #44 SOS team a "strong 2 seed" lol you are living in fantasy land

But again, in almost every metric you want to look at we have top 16 resources. You yourself claim we have a ton of MLB talent. Where is the equivalent performance?

[Coach34]

In no world is our unranked #40 RPI #44 SOS team a "strong 2 seed" lol you are living in fantasy land

But again, in almost every metric you want to look at we have top 16 resources. You yourself claim we have a ton of MLB talent. Where is the equivalent performance?

You can spout "Top 16 resources" all you want but in today's college baseball we are no different than a bunch of teams

In the SEC- it's LSU by themselves- then Candy. After that, the next group of teams are interchangable. State, Mississippi, SC, UPig, Tennessee, A&M, Florida...then we can go to the ACC and Big 12 for a few teams to throw in that group as well. We are a Top 20 program but that 20 is actually about 30-35 teams now

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

You can spout "Top 16 resources" all you want but in today's college baseball we are no different than a bunch of teams

In the SEC- it's LSU by themselves- then Candy. After that, the next group of teams are interchangable. State, Mississippi, SC, UPig, Tennessee, A&M, Florida...then we can go to the ACC and Big 12 for a few teams to throw in that group as well. We are a Top 20 program but that 20 is actually about 30-35 teams now

That is absolutely pure bullshit. You can't take a bunch of top 15/top 10 numbers, average them up, and then get "Were actually tied for 20th with 35 other teams" lol

But let's say we arent a top 16 program. Ok. You yourself have said we have top 5 MLB talent regarding the draft this year. so were the results that match our talent? We should be a top 16 team this year per your own evaluation of our talent, even if you don't think that's sustainable moving forward. We're underperforming our talent level per you

[Coach34]

In no world is our unranked #40 RPI #44 SOS team a "strong 2 seed" lol you are living in fantasy land

Every projection put out right now has us as a strong 2. The fantasy is all you hoping Lemon fails

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Every projection put out right now has us as a strong 2. The fantasy is all you hoping Lemon fails

I'm not "Hoping" Leminizick fails, he already has failed. I'm hoping we acknowledge that fact and move on from him before he wastes next season too

You're the one who's very pleased with our program and hopes to keep the same results

[Coach34]

You yourself claim we have a ton of MLB talent. Where is the equivalent performance?

Welllllllll let's see:

Jordan? Doing pretty well
Hines? down year but he isnt terrible by any means
Mershon? Dirtbag is hitting .343 and has been great defensively
Hugesak? Hitting .326 and around .340 in SEC play. Really good in CF also
Stephen? One of the SEC's best SP's
Caribbean Jerk? Been pretty good as well
Dohm? Was throwing great until injured

Those are just the definite draft picks

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Welllllllll let's see:

Jordan? Doing pretty well
Hines? down year but he isnt terrible by any means
Mershon? Dirtbag is hitting .343 and has been great defensively
Hugesak? Hitting .326 and around .340 in SEC play. Really good in CF also
Stephen? One of the SEC's best SP's
Caribbean Jerk? Been pretty good as well
Dohm? Was throwing great until injured

Those are just the definite draft picks

Exactly! So where's our top 10 team? You can't claim we have great talent, then look at our unranked #40 RPI team and say "Lemo is doing a good job".

Either we have not top 40 talent and Lemo is coaching them well, or we have a lot of talent and Lemo is underperforming.

[Quaoarsking]

Note that many posters have said that we should be playing in the Supers every other year or so. That's basically the same thing as I'm suggesting.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Note that many posters have said that we should be playing in the Supers every other year or so. That's basically the same thing as I'm suggesting.

C34 himself said we should make a regional every year and the Supers every 3rd year or so. But he wants us to believe being a 2 seed is some great success from Lemo and proves us doubters wrong

[DawgFromOxford]

Candy escaped Tuesday with a 5-4 win over Tennessee-Martin. It's baseball.

It?s not ?that?s just baseball? when it keeps happening

Air Force, Austin Peay, Georgia Southern, South Ala., Central Arkansas. 6 out of conference losses between these powerhouse teams.

[Santiago]

It?s not ?that?s just baseball? when it keeps happening

Air Force, Austin Peay, Georgia Southern, South Ala., Central Arkansas. 6 out of conference losses between these powerhouse teams.

And Vandy was throwing freshmen in the later innings of their game....using the midweek to develop players.

[Coach34]

Not to mention Bama was one of the SEC leaders in draft picks last July

[BuckyIsAB****]

We are tied for 5th in the SEC- how is that underachieving this year? We were picked last in the West but currently 3rd. We are actually overachieving.

We just got run ruled by an our arch rival. Blown multiple MULTIPLE games Due to the same issues we have struggled with for the past 2 years. Tied for 5th in April is better than 14th place for sure. But tied for 5th should be our down years not a prove it year.

The fact you are defending and borderline bragging on here about 5th place is pretty telling

[Coach34]

We just got run ruled by an our arch rival. Blown multiple MULTIPLE games Due to the same issues we have struggled with for the past 2 years. Tied for 5th in April is better than 14th place for sure. But tied for 5th should be our down years not a prove it year.

The fact you are defending and borderline bragging on here about 5th place is pretty telling

We also lost our #1 SP but we keep fighting on and remain top half of the SEC. Saying they have failed is moronic

[Coach34]

The fact you are defending and borderline bragging on here about 5th place is pretty telling

We have 1- ONE- SEC regular season title in the last 35 years. Acting like we are always leading the SEC is very telling about how much you know about baseball

[BuckyIsAB****]

Every projection put out right now has us as a strong 2. The fantasy is all you hoping Lemon fails

Uh. He and his staff already have