Mississippi State Baseball Expectations

[BuckyIsAB****]

So im reading the argument is, bc we had a really good run for 10 years we should accept our current staff underachieving 3 years in a row. And arguably underachieving during the middle of our good run that they didnt build.

That is pretty stupid IMO. Making excuses

[StarkVegasSteve]

So im reading the argument is, bc we had a really good run for 10 years we should accept our current staff underachieving 3 years in a row. And arguably underachieving during the middle of our good run that they didnt build.

That is pretty stupid IMO. Making excuses

I don't think anyone has said that. What most, including myself, are saying is that 10 year run can't be the expectation. You can't expect a hit rate like that in this college baseball environment. Also, the amount of MLB talent we got to campus. Stratton, Renfroe, Woodruff, Lowe, Rooker, Bednar, Sims, Ginn, Small, Foscue, Westburg.....all in that 10 year span. We had 9 1st round picks from 2012-2022. We had 10 from 1966-2011 That's an almost unfathomable recruiting hit rate.

[Coach34]

So im reading the argument is, bc we had a really good run for 10 years we should accept our current staff underachieving 3 years in a row. And arguably underachieving during the middle of our good run that they didnt build.

We are tied for 5th in the SEC- how is that underachieving this year? We were picked last in the West but currently 3rd. We are actually overachieving.

[Santiago]

We are tied for 5th in the SEC- how is that underachieving this year? We were picked last in the West but currently 3rd. We are actually overachieving.

Let's see where we finish, because we have won only 1 series against an NCAA regional team.
But also, those midweek losses, and series losses early season do count also as a disappointment.
We had to pitch our weekend pitchers to hang on against Memphis.

Need some wins at Vandy, Arky, and with Bama.

[Coach34]

Let's see where we finish, because we have won only 1 series against an NCAA regional team.
But also, those midweek losses, and series losses early season do count also as a disappointment.
We had to pitch our weekend pitchers to hang on against Memphis.

Need some wins at Vandy, Arky, and with Bama.

Candy escaped Tuesday with a 5-4 win over Tennessee-Martin. It's baseball.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Candy escaped Tuesday with a 5-4 win over Tennessee-Martin. It's baseball.

Only thing you and I can completely agree on is that 1 off wins or losses should be ignored in favor of the whole picture. That's why our #40 RPI and overall terrible non con need to be be looked at too. But you just care about SEC, which by the way... so far we've beaten a terrible LSU team, a terrible Auburn team, a good UGA team, and lost to a great A&M, a mediocre at best UF, and a bad OM team. By no metrics can you say this teams SEC performance is that of a team with the talent you say we have

[Santiago]

Candy escaped Tuesday with a 5-4 win over Tennessee-Martin. It's baseball.

They pitched some freshman in the game too. Something we can't do.
I get it though, the midweeks are tough....They were throwing freshmen in the last 3-4 innings, where we were bringing in our weekend closers to try and win.
We don't have freshmen like that.
That is where we are and where Vandy is at.

[BrunswickDawg]

Let's see where we finish, because we have won only 1 series against an NCAA regional team.
But also, those midweek losses, and series losses early season do count also as a disappointment.
We had to pitch our weekend pitchers to hang on against Memphis.

Need some wins at Vandy, Arky, and with Bama.

And I think all anyone has really said is that the only way to evaluate this is going to be based on the end of season results. That's still a fact today.
As C34 has said, Lemonis' job is on the line this season. We know it. He knows it. We are quibbling about semantics for the most part. Fact is he really got a pass for '22 due to injuries and his work from '19-'21 resulting in a Natty. '23 put him on the "win or you're gone" path for '24. I think that tells us that 1) Our administration views our standard as being "make the post season"; and 2) They are also willing to consider the realities of the situation when making decisions (which most fans are not).

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

We are tied for 5th in the SEC- how is that underachieving this year? We were picked last in the West but currently 3rd. We are actually overachieving.

Oh I wasn't aware we cancelled our out of conference games.

If you exclude the games you don't like and look only at SEC wins and loses, yes we're doing fine. If you include our entire season? We're unranked and our RPI is in the 40s. We've also played a weak SEC schedule so far.


As for where we were picked? That was because Lemo sucked so hard the media assumed he'd suck again. Not because our talented level warranted a last place finish. Hell, even if our talent WAS bad, that's on Lemo in year 6.

You have been the one saying this team would have a ton of players drafted, be among the top in the country in that regard. Where's my "among the top in the country" performance to go with it? Lemo is dragging us down, he just is