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    NIL just going to get harder and harder to compete




    https://x.com/on3nil/status/17813099...YKXqKt8QQD9Mtw

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    Yep.

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    Good for FedEx. They did what they should've done.
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    Toyota is a Fortune 500 Global company. Matter o' fact they're top 10. I'm sure there are probably others if you look hard enough. Sanderson Farms was in it as recently as 2021.
    "The QB and the receiver weren't on the same page there, but hey its only week eleven". (Jack Cristil)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saltydog View Post
    Toyota is a Fortune 500 Global company. Matter o' fact they're top 10. I'm sure there are probably others if you look hard enough. Sanderson Farms was in it as recently as 2021.
    None are headquartered in MS. HQ?s are where the highly compensated reside. Wayne-Sanderson Farms is headquartered in GA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred Garvin View Post
    None are headquartered in MS. HQ?s are where the highly compensated reside. Wayne-Sanderson Farms is headquartered in GA.
    Somewhat true. IP has operations in MS and is headquartered in Memphis but they greatly support engineering schools at MSU. Why? Because that is where the return on their investment is at. They don't give $$$ to Memphis sports because they reside in Memphis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R2Dawg View Post
    Somewhat true. IP has operations in MS and is headquartered in Memphis but they greatly support engineering schools at MSU. Why? Because that is where the return on their investment is at. They don't give $$$ to Memphis sports because they reside in Memphis.
    I think it cuts both ways. The flagship universities are going to have complete teams every year, because they can buy a shovel-ready solution at every position. And will continue to have top recruiting classes. Both fueled by NIL advantages.

    But these rub against each other - it will be hard to break into these squads for first time starters. And they will not t be able to stockpile depth anymore, because a tier 2 team (for ease just define the top half of the SEC in ath. dept. revenue is tier 1, the bottom half is tier 2) is lurking to give a starting position to second string player. The tier 1 NIL package for player 30 will not be able to beat the tier 2 NIL pacakage for position 10, and the modern college athlete is not going to wait years to play.

    And the tier 2 team can also pick off experienced P5 players to plug holes.

    The tier 1 team has an advantage but it is fragile. A few injuries or player recruitment busts (especially at qb) and you are struggling. In the past the tier 2 teams would have gaps or perennial weaknesses at positions like cb, ot, de. Now they can plug those holes with near-tier 1 players.

    The margins are thinner for everyone - Coaching, injuries, player scouting and development, portal recruiting will be the difference.

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    Yep. When your state has no Fortune 500 companies ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred Garvin View Post
    Yep. When your state has no Fortune 500 companies ...
    Yet, supposedly we have a couple of billionaire alums that flat out refuse to give money to athletics, only academics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Yet, supposedly we have a couple of billionaire alums that flat out refuse to give money to athletics, only academics.
    And I don't blame them one bit. They give to the things that matter and make real money. I love sports but it is entertainment only. Sports don't pay any bills, actually sports creates bills in 99% of households. The degree that does life supporting things is more important.

    Let the rich sports alumni give to their college of sports? Oh wait, no one will do that just expect the engineers, business and education majors to foot the bill.

    Can you imagine the outcry from athletics if engineering came crying to sports to fund them? Can yall see the hypocrisy? This is what is wrong with our culture. This is what led to the fall of the Roman empire.

    As I've said repeatedly, the house of cards will crumble one day; the sports ballon will burst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R2Dawg View Post
    And I don't blame them one bit. They give to the things that matter and make real money. I love sports but it is entertainment only. Sports don't pay any bills, actually sports creates bills in 99% of households. The degree that does life supporting things is more important.

    Let the rich sports alumni give to their college of sports? Oh wait, no one will do that just expect the engineers, business and education majors to foot the bill.

    Can you imagine the outcry from athletics if engineering came crying to sports to fund them? Can yall see the hypocrisy? This is what is wrong with our culture. This is what led to the fall of the Roman empire.

    As I've said repeatedly, the house of cards will crumble one day; the sports ballon will burst.
    To be fair, while I agree athletics aren't the most important thing, it is usually one of the first opportunities to showcase your school to perspective highschool students. Have you looked at the number of out of state applications Alabama started getting after Saban had been there and won a couple of NCs? It shot through the roof and they are now cherry picking some of the best academic students thus improving the school's academic reputation.

    So, in a round about way it would make sense if you care about academics to support athletics. It is like the front door to your university especially for kids that didn't have parents that went to State.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred Garvin View Post
    Yep. When your state has no Fortune 500 companies ...
    We have some big companies in MS but those companies invest in the schools that actually give them a return. Those companies invest plenty in the schools that impact what they do in business and sports ain't it. Sports continues to have its hand out dependent on the real money makers in the world.

    We choose to spend our entertainment household money on supporting sports but that could end tomorrow. This money is all discretionary money from each household budget.

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    How much of the TV money does MSU put into the NIL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by parabrave View Post
    How much of the TV money does MSU put into the NIL?
    Zero. Schools cant use their money for NIL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Zero. Schools cant use their money for NIL
    So the organizations that make the most off a players Name Image and Likeness of the Athletes don't use any of the Millions they get for the NIL. But Joe and Jane Blow are expected to pay even after shelling out hundreds of dollars to attend a game. What do the Schools contribute to the NIL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Zero. Schools cant use their money for NIL
    https://www.espn.com/college-sports/...y-athletes-nil

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Zero. Schools cant use their money for NIL
    Not so fast.

    https://www.si.com/college/2024/04/1...college-sports

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLostDawg View Post
    One step closer to the end of amateur sports. Sad times.

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    College sports is just turning into another professional sports league(minor league at best). My question is why do we need more professional sports? The best of the best are already in mlb,nfl,nba,etc.. We're reaching the point now where minor leaguers(college athletes) are going to be making ridiculous salaries. The bubble has to burst at some point.

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