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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    Dude are you drunk? I'm talking about the pitching not lemonis. This thread is about the bullpen geez
    I'm a buck-stops-with-the-coach guy. I don't blame players... I blame coaches. If the players blow a game, then the coach shoulda got better players

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I'm a buck-stops-with-the-coach guy. I don't blame players... I blame coaches. If the players blow a game, then the coach shoulda got better players
    Agree with this on the macro or long haul but in micro, short term one game - players got to own. Ultimately if we don't win enough over year, years then yeah that is on coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I'm a buck-stops-with-the-coach guy. I don't blame players... I blame coaches. If the players blow a game, then the coach shoulda got better players
    Once again the thread title is about the bullpen. I'm addressing the op you're bitching about Lemonis

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    We blew 3 save opportunities. (Technically 2 and then the 8th but still)

    Yes Larry needs to make the play but he's not a good player so I don't expect different.

    But we started every save opportunity with a lead off walk or hit. Just non-competitive from a pitching standpoint. Schuelke, Davis, Ligon, Stephens... none of these dudes have what it takes with the game on the line

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    We blew 3 saves.

    Yes Larry needs to make the play but he's not a good player so I don't expect different.

    But we started every save opportunity with a lead off walk or hit. Just non-competitive from a pitching standpoint. Schuelke, Davis, Ligon, Stephens... none of these dudes have what it takes with the game on the line
    True but that's a routine play. Game over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    We had plenty of chances to step on their throat and did not. The only thing I am irked with Lemonis about in this one was putting Stevens out there. He did the same thing against Florida. He just does not have control in late game situations. It should never have mattered though. Larry should have made the play in the 10th that ends it.
    Glad someone else sees it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    True but that's a routine play. Game over.
    If our best two hitters don't choke like a cheap hooker with RISP and less that 2 outs, we score more runs and maybe it doesn't matter. Lots of factors contributed to the loss. I just made a comment about how bad the bullpen was. Never did I say it was the only reason we lost. I choose to place most of the blame on them though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    If our best two hitters don't choke like a cheap hooker with RISP and less that 2 outs, we score more runs and maybe it doesn't matter. Lots of factors contributed to the loss. I just made a comment about how bad the bullpen was. Never did I say it was the only reason we lost. I choose to place most of the blame on them though.
    The area you blamed is correct because it is the most frequent. You are right though. If we step on their throat in the 8th and extend the lead out then it does not matter. They were probably a run or two away from rolling over and dying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    If our best two hitters don't choke like a cheap hooker with RISP and less that 2 outs, we score more runs and maybe it doesn't matter. Lots of factors contributed to the loss. I just made a comment about how bad the bullpen was. Never did I say it was the only reason we lost. I choose to place most of the blame on them though.
    There is no doubt we wrote a book tonight on a thousand ways to lose a baseball game

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    If our best two hitters don't choke like a cheap hooker with RISP and less that 2 outs, we score more runs and maybe it doesn't matter. Lots of factors contributed to the loss. I just made a comment about how bad the bullpen was. Never did I say it was the only reason we lost. I choose to place most of the blame on them though.
    The biggest issue overall and not just this game to me is it's the same constant theme. Bullpen doesn't get the job done and we try to hit home runs when we just need to put the ball in play and we squander innings.

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    We are just inconsistent in several areas. Striking out over 16 times against a very poor Ole Dixie pitching staff was sickening to watch.

    As much as I like Johnny Long his homerun trot fired Ole Dixie up last night, I'm not saying it cost us the game, but he has to do better with his emotions.

    Lemonis needs to take Larry out of the lead off spot and move everyone up. I have no idea what we need to do with a DH, but it's a black hole. Obviously our freshmen aren't ready for the moment to sow out we them, it is what it is.

    Bottom line, we gotta recruit especially to our needs such as relief pitchers. It's easy to be critical when we lose, but today is a huge game for us to keep moving forward. We let a really bad Ole Dixie baseball team get fired up going into the Sunday game. Win today and all is good, lose and here we go again, LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    We are just inconsistent in several areas. Striking out over 16 times against a very poor Ole Dixie pitching staff was sickening to watch.

    As much as I like Johnny Long his homerun trot fired Ole Dixie up last night, I'm not saying it cost us the game, but he has to do better with his emotions.

    Lemonis needs to take Larry out of the lead off spot and move everyone up. I have no idea what we need to do with a DH, but it's a black hole. Obviously our freshmen aren't ready for the moment to sow out we them, it is what it is.

    Bottom line, we gotta recruit especially to our needs such as relief pitchers. It's easy to be critical when we lose, but today is a huge game for us to keep moving forward. We let a really bad Ole Dixie baseball team get fired up going into the Sunday game. Win today and all is good, lose and here we go again, LOL.
    Agree we lost this game in so many areas. The strike out watching I can't stand with RISP. Hines is a strike out machine now. Agree on DH too. These freshmen are not ready for SEC weekend. Surely we got someone else to put in there for weekend. We are playing than inning with 2 outs. Left pitchers in too long again. Bianco pulled his quick all night, got them the W.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R2Dawg View Post
    Agree we lost this game in so many areas. The strike out watching I can't stand with RISP. Hines is a strike out machine now. Agree on DH too. These freshmen are not ready for SEC weekend. Surely we got someone else to put in there for weekend. We are playing than inning with 2 outs. Left pitchers in too long again. Bianco pulled his quick all night, got them the W.
    I just thought watching the game last night we just didn't seem to be fired up, motivated or ready to play last night. I guess our problem is inconsistent, its decision making also in baseball, "take him out, leave him in".

    Need to win today no doubt. We are no doubt sitting on the edge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    We are just inconsistent in several areas. Striking out over 16 times against a very poor Ole Dixie pitching staff was sickening to watch.

    As much as I like Johnny Long his homerun trot fired Ole Dixie up last night, I'm not saying it cost us the game, but he has to do better with his emotions.

    Lemonis needs to take Larry out of the lead off spot and move everyone up. I have no idea what we need to do with a DH, but it's a black hole. Obviously our freshmen aren't ready for the moment to sow out we them, it is what it is.

    Bottom line, we gotta recruit especially to our needs such as relief pitchers. It's easy to be critical when we lose, but today is a huge game for us to keep moving forward. We let a really bad Ole Dixie baseball team get fired up going into the Sunday game. Win today and all is good, lose and here we go again, LOL.
    Putting a freshman lefty at DH against a lefty is so stupid. Lemonis can’t get out of his own way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    We are just inconsistent in several areas. Striking out over 16 times against a very poor Ole Dixie pitching staff was sickening to watch.

    As much as I like Johnny Long his homerun trot fired Ole Dixie up last night, I'm not saying it cost us the game, but he has to do better with his emotions.

    Lemonis needs to take Larry out of the lead off spot and move everyone up. I have no idea what we need to do with a DH, but it's a black hole. Obviously our freshmen aren't ready for the moment to sow out we them, it is what it is.

    Bottom line, we gotta recruit especially to our needs such as relief pitchers. It's easy to be critical when we lose, but today is a huge game for us to keep moving forward. We let a really bad Ole Dixie baseball team get fired up going into the Sunday game. Win today and all is good, lose and here we go again, LOL.
    He hit a home run. I'm fine with his emotions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    He hit a home run. I'm fine with his emotions.
    He is overboard with his emotions. Last week was BS and last night was too much. It's not like he had hit a walk off HR. Last week if I were coaching I would have let him know real quick what he did after the play at the plate was BS and it better not happen again or he would sit ... even if the ump hadn't thrown him out.

    I've seen many a catcher where the runner barreled him over trying to knock the ball out of his hand that didn't react like that. I've done that myself.

    ETA: And the play last week the runner was diving head first and trying to go around the tag, not intentionally trying to run over Long.
    Last edited by dawgday166; 04-14-2024 at 10:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    He hit a home run. I'm fine with his emotions.
    I'm not fine with his emotions. You don't carry the bat almost to first base and then toss it over your head not knowing where it lands, and then stomp on home plate and beat your chest towards the Ole Miss dugout. I don't blame Bianco for getting fired up and demanding Long be tossed out. Lemonis needs to tell Long he has to control himself or he's not going to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    I just thought watching the game last night we just didn't seem to be fired up, motivated or ready to play last night. I guess our problem is inconsistent, its decision making also in baseball, "take him out, leave him in".

    Need to win today no doubt. We are no doubt sitting on the edge.
    And now you say we weren't fired up enough.

    Our fans can't decide what they want.

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    This has been an excellent thread on repeat bitching of year long points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Offshore Dawg View Post
    This has been an excellent thread on repeat bitching of year long points.
    Year long?? We are going on almost 3 years with the same problem. We are still trying to replace Landon Sims.

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