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    What was Cheese doing to let the fiasco happen

    how did he let Hisack just walk into an out. Could He not tell Him to get his ass back on third. Makes me wonder why even have a third base coach.

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    Hugesak thought for whatever reason the bases were loaded and he was headed home after Ball 4. Cheese called him back and the throw beat him. Had Cheese not called him back he would have kept on going

    Cheese aint perfect in the coaching box but that was on Hugesak all the way
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Hugesak thought for whatever reason the bases were loaded and he was headed home after Ball 4. Cheese called him back and the throw beat him. Had Cheese not called him back he would have kept on going

    Cheese aint perfect in the coaching box but that was on Hugesak all the way
    This, not on cheese. I've seen this kind of thing happen at all levels too. No excuse for it but it does happen, humans after all do make mistakes, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Hugesak thought for whatever reason the bases were loaded and he was headed home after Ball 4. Cheese called him back and the throw beat him. Had Cheese not called him back he would have kept on going

    Cheese aint perfect in the coaching box but that was on Hugesak all the way
    BS! It's 100% on him! The base coaches job is not to just wave runners. It is to keep them aware of the situation too. Yes, Hugesack screwed up but it was the coach or more like, the lack-of that let him screw up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjoelner34 View Post
    BS! It's 100% on him! The base coaches job is not to just wave runners. It is to keep them aware of the situation too. Yes, Hugesack screwed up but it was the coach or more like, the lack-of that let him screw up.
    disagreement noted
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    You could say Cheese should have been paying better attention, but in his defense, who in their right mind would even think Hujsak would do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedFedder View Post
    You could say Cheese should have been paying better attention, but in his defense, who in their right mind would even think Hujsak would do that.
    And I will bet anyone 100 bucks that he does not do it again.

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    If you watch the replay Hujsak started back toward the bag and I'm sure Cheese thought he was coming back then he did a 180 and started toward the play, you see Cheese gesturing and yelling for him to get back. This was all on Hujsak and he knows it. I love the way Hujsak plays the game but he screwed up there. Happens to the best. I saw Mickey Mantle take off on a pop fly because he thought there were 2 outs and he got doubled up.

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    Hmmmm, the 3rd base coach should always tell the runner the situation and explain the "what ifs". Sure, Hujsak is responsible for his mistake, but Cheese should have been more alert also. I wondered what Cheese was doing or not doing when the play accrued. Actually, i think it's more 50-50.

    Btw, our base running situation needs to get corrected. Hasn't been as bad lately but it has caused issues in the past, just saying so don't hate on me. I like winning and coaching guys up. LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    Hmmmm, the 3rd base coach should always tell the runner the situation and explain the "what ifs". Sure, Hujsak is responsible for his mistake, but Cheese should have been more alert also. I wondered what Cheese was doing or not doing when the play accrued. Actually, i think it's more 50-50.

    Btw, our base running situation needs to get corrected. Hasn't been as bad lately but it has caused issues in the past, just saying so don't hate on me. I like winning and coaching guys up. LOL.
    Base, I normally agree with you but as someone who coached third base for a long time, I can assure you, that you can remind a runner of everything and be screaming at them and watch them still do something like what Hujsak did. General rule is if a coach has to yell at you, it's to late. Now I do agree our baserunning has been interesting to say the least, but that was just a brain cramp by Hujsak. Watch the replay he started coming back to third on ball 4 and then made a 180 and headed to the plate, it was to late for cheese to do anything at that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    Base, I normally agree with you but as someone who coached third base for a long time, I can assure you, that you can remind a runner of everything and be screaming at them and watch them still do something like what Hujsak did. General rule is if a coach has to yell at you, it's to late. Now I do agree our baserunning has been interesting to say the least, but that was just a brain cramp by Hujsak. Watch the replay he started coming back to third on ball 4 and then made a 180 and headed to the plate, it was to late for cheese to do anything at that point.
    LOL, I don't doubt what you say, but maybe someone could ask both runner and coach IF things were explained. It's a guess for all of us what may have been discussed or not discussed. Again no doubt runner made a mistake of not paying attention, but my first reaction watching was WTF? LOL, all good with you 24, you know more baseball than me, I don't have to be right every time on a message board.

    May have some news for you on upcoming games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    Hmmmm, the 3rd base coach should always tell the runner the situation and explain the "what ifs". Sure, Hujsak is responsible for his mistake, but Cheese should have been more alert also. I wondered what Cheese was doing or not doing when the play accrued. Actually, i think it's more 50-50.

    Btw, our base running situation needs to get corrected. Hasn't been as bad lately but it has caused issues in the past, just saying so don't hate on me. I like winning and coaching guys up. LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    Hmmmm, the 3rd base coach should always tell the runner the situation and explain the "what ifs". Sure, Hujsak is responsible for his mistake, but Cheese should have been more alert also. I wondered what Cheese was doing or not doing when the play accrued. Actually, i think it's more 50-50.

    Btw, our base running situation needs to get corrected. Hasn't been as bad lately but it has caused issues in the past, just saying so don't hate on me. I like winning and coaching guys up. LOL.
    Our 2 family groups were sitting about 7 and 8 rows above the third base dugout and saw the play in real time. All five of us felt that both Cheese and Hujsak fell asleep at the wheel. Bone headed play by both. My wife says that the only job Cheese has coaching the third base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldendawg View Post
    Our 2 family groups were sitting about 7 and 8 rows above the third base dugout and saw the play in real time. All five of us felt that both Cheese and Hujsak fell asleep at the wheel. Bone headed play by both. My wife says that the only job Cheese has coaching the third base.
    Facts!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldendawg View Post
    Our 2 family groups were sitting about 7 and 8 rows above the third base dugout and saw the play in real time. All five of us felt that both Cheese and Hujsak fell asleep at the wheel. Bone headed play by both. My wife says that the only job Cheese has coaching the third base.
    Your wife knows what cheese told him!??? Figures. This ain't on cheese. I promise you cheese just told him what they were doing on a ground ball. Let it go through. Etc. you don't tell them let it go through on the bases loaded. And you don't down angle w no outs. So let's just admit this isn't cheese's fault. Like blaming the rb coach for us fumbling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    Hmmmm, the 3rd base coach should always tell the runner the situation and explain the "what ifs". Sure, Hujsak is responsible for his mistake, but Cheese should have been more alert also. I wondered what Cheese was doing or not doing when the play accrued. Actually, i think it's more 50-50.

    Btw, our base running situation needs to get corrected. Hasn't been as bad lately but it has caused issues in the past, just saying so don't hate on me. I like winning and coaching guys up. LOL.
    exactly--Cheese went to sleep. why have a 3rd base coach if he isn't talking to the runner all the time.

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    what was cheese supposed to do? "bases aren't loaded so don't try to walk home if this next pitch is a ball...if it's a strike stay here as well...if it's a wild pitch try to score if it's no doubt...if it bounces back quickly then hold up...if it's a deep fly ball we're gonna tag, etc........"

    hell no, i guarantee you he relayed the situation and number of outs but you can't go over every possible scenario in every situation. also, if you think merely telling a base runner exactly what to and not to do is going to prevent any mistakes or errors then you haven't spent much time on the diamond. it is mind numbing what can happen at all levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shoeless joe View Post
    what was cheese supposed to do? "bases aren't loaded so don't try to walk home if this next pitch is a ball...if it's a strike stay here as well...if it's a wild pitch try to score if it's no doubt...if it bounces back quickly then hold up...if it's a deep fly ball we're gonna tag, etc........"

    hell no, i guarantee you he relayed the situation and number of outs but you can't go over every possible scenario in every situation. also, if you think merely telling a base runner exactly what to and not to do is going to prevent any mistakes or errors then you haven't spent much time on the diamond. it is mind numbing what can happen at all levels.
    Exactly.

    I'm not talking about Base here but we seem to have some fans that want to blame the coach for every single thing bad that happens. Like the coaches have remotes and are moving them. Shit just happens sometimes. Or we will talk about how lucky we were that Alford booted that ball knowing good and well that Alford is a shitty defender. And absolutely ignoring Chester's two throwing errors at 3rd on routine balls that helped Georgia score some runs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Exactly.

    I'm not talking about Base here but we seem to have some fans that want to blame the coach for every single thing bad that happens. Like the coaches have remotes and are moving them. Shit just happens sometimes. Or we will talk about how lucky we were that Alford booted that ball knowing good and well that Alford is a shitty defender. And absolutely ignoring Chester's two throwing errors at 3rd on routine balls that helped Georgia score some runs.
    That is correct and a good point about not liking a Coach and blaming lots of situations on a coach that he has no control. We have improved no doubt, I just hope we keep it up, Lord knows I have been somewhat outspoken about Lemonis, but I just want us to win! Btw, I don't dislike Lemonis, I just think he fell a sleep at the wheel to quickly.

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    Well, I think I will go eat some "crow meat", LOL! Glad we won.

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