We have the money for the buyout. I think it starts to become who can we get with paying another 3 mill or so for the other coach's buyout
We have the money for the buyout. I think it starts to become who can we get with paying another 3 mill or so for the other coach's buyout
We could axe him to resign***Quote:
Originally Posted by civildawg
We wont do it. You know itQuote:
Originally Posted by civildawg
And you know this? You have your fingers on the purse strings? The program with the smallest budget in the SEC? You have no idea what we have money for...and we've raised 60% of the $20 million needed to start the new Dude...idiots on this board..Quote:
Originally Posted by civildawg
Nope we won't. Hell I'd be surprised if we let him go after next year. Everybody knows it's the MSU way to give a coach atleast 3 shitastic seasons and completely tank the program before you make a change.Quote:
Originally Posted by GTHOM
If you don't think we have a rainy day fund for a coach's buyout then you're the idiot
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Originally Posted by BayouDawg
Look, outside of our fanbase, we're seen as a team who base numer of wins is around 3 or 4. What people see with CDM is that he has consistently over performed at MSU. They don't look at the lack of Championships that we believe we should have won, or how many time Holloway runs up the middle, or how many job search rumors start up at the end of each season. All they see is a coach that has won at a school generally thought of as the dumpster fire of the SEC West. If you fire CDM now, you will get a Rick Ray type coach to follow.Quote:
Originally Posted by GTHOM
As far as the Cutcliffe situation. It didn't matter if UM was always going to run him off or not. The rest of the world saw a winning coach fired a tradionally dumpster fire school, and UM got stuck with Ed O before he was ready for the big time.
I didnt say we didnt have it, I said we didnt want to do it, and we wont do it. We dont have the balls. Maybe Cohen changes that. But I dont think he will because he wasnt fired after the 2015 disaster season he had. He wont make a major firing/hiring in his first months on the jobQuote:
Originally Posted by civildawg
I see what you're saying but you can't let other people define you. Especially not the damn media. We could just as easily say yea we went to 6 straight bowl games with this ass clown that can't recruit so imagine what we could do with a competent driven coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by EngDawg
I was talking to backspin, I may have reply failed. I agree we won't do it and I don't know if we really need to do it this year but that's not my job to figure out
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Originally Posted by BayouDawg
Agree. Cutcliffe was a coach who wanted to recruit the right way, but he was not the type of coach OM wanted (other than to get Eli). He didn't go for the Network way of recruiting, which OM had been doing since Johnny Vaught, but just on a smaller scale back then.
When did Cutcliffe lose to South Alabama? Allow over 40 points to Samford? Ole Moss ended up with CoachQuote:
Originally Posted by EngDawg
O because everyone knew that they were going rogue and most coaches don't want to deal with that.
You are aware that the guy that hired Rick Ray is in Florida correct? I can name only one bad hire Cohen has made in baseball.
And don't get me started on the media who basically takes pot shots at us when we win SEC championships. Yeah we should care what they say because they obviously have our best interests at heart.
Y'all are crazy on firing Mullen. News flash on coaches interviewing for jobs: IT'S A BUSINESS! If you don't want him interviewing then put it in the contract. If Saban can shop himself on Alabama to Texas, Lane Kiffin can shop himself to USC on Tennessee, and Jimbo shop himself to LSU on Florida State who in the heck do you think MSU is to keep our most successful coach ever from looking around?
This is literally Mullen's first and only bad season. The next closest was when he lost Tyler Russell in game one which would sink most programs. This year we lost BOTH starting corners.
PUMP THE BRAKES!!! You're overly emotional. All we need is to recruit/develop a better secondary and our team will be fine next year. Mullen has finally realized that Aeris Williams is the guy and he need to run the ball. Fitz is finally throwing the ball consistently to players wearing maroon and I'm sure that Mullen will have him work on short touch passes and accuracy all summer. Step away from the ledge. Our program is not sunk.
Yes, he could and should replace Hev but tell the truth the OL was not the reason we lost tonight. It's going to be all right. I wish we were better this year too. But OM is about to get the death penalty and it will make us all feel so much better.
Sirmon will take a lot of the blame for the defense. But I can't fully blame a guy with zero experience coming into the season. Mullen hired him for the simple fact that nobody else more qualified wanted it. You mean to tell me there wasn't someone,anywhere in any conference with a background,wouldn't want the position The D.C. Has been nothing but a revolving door in 9 years. Mullen doesn't let the assistants do their jobs like they want. It's so obvious
Not to mention Cutcliffe wasn't making $4.3 million per year, or anything close to whatever an equivalent number was in 2004.Quote:
Originally Posted by BayouDawg
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Originally Posted by Reason2succeed
This
For a 4 win team, we are actually a pretty quick fix in getting back to 8+ wins. We are like the Colts or Packers. We have the QB and system. Just have clean somethings up. Not the end of the world especially for what was known to be a tradition year.
I don't want Mullen fired anymore, our offense actually looks pretty good now.
However if I'm Cohen I'm telling Dan, you go out and get a proven DC (and give him the money to do it) and let HIM do his darned job. Stop telling the DC how to run his players.
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Originally Posted by Todd4State
It doesn't matter about the quality of Cuttcliffe's losses vs the quality of Mullen's losses, what matters more is the quality and quantity of their respective successes, and the quantity of their respective failures.
Do you seriously still believe that we hired RR because we wanted him. I've heard he was our 8th offer and a desperation hire. But I digress.
I'm with you, 17 the media. I'm more concerned about our reputation in coaching circles.
From what I heard we hired Ray because Scott undercut our cigar boys. Kind of weird that we were able to hire Howland for the same position after thee awful seasons of Ray right?Quote:
Originally Posted by EngDawg
And on that point despite Ray we now have s great basketball coach. Despite Coach O Ole Miss had 10 win seasons with Nutt and Freeze. I don't see is making much progress with Dan and even a bad hire for three years likely gets us closer to the next good one. In the past we've had interest from Steve Spurrier and Jimbo Fisher even though we were in much worse shape than now. Let Dan go.
And one thing about the media you probably haven't thought about is the reason they have the expectations for us that they do is because we tend to put up with more shit like what we've gone through this season. Most schools in the SEC don't put up with losing to South Alabama, Kentucky, giving up tons of yards to UMass and Samford and 50+ points to Alabama and Arkansas. We do. Because of fans like you who don't demand better.
Yep. it's not the multiple close losses....its the way we have played, even against shitty teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State