and it?s been a long, long, long time since we have played this well but let?s not go all NIT Champsburg now. Those of you old enough will remember what I?m talking about.
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and it?s been a long, long, long time since we have played this well but let?s not go all NIT Champsburg now. Those of you old enough will remember what I?m talking about.
The NIT doesn't excite me. It's a positive for next season but winning really does nothing more than the extra games and practices. I still expect us to be in the NCAAs next year. That's still my bottom line.
I will say, it beats watching some home remodel show or the Walking Dead though.
Enjoy the moment, I am.
The bigger picture is the important thing here. Meaning, it?s not so much winning the NIT as it is we, hopefully, have turned the corner, matured, and will compete for league title next year
Agreed. But competitors want to compete and winners want to win. So I want to win the damn thing. I hated reading all the message board posts after we beat Baylor about how we had no chance against Louisville. People already marking that game down as a loss proved ridiculous. I want to win them all. So I'm all in on wanting to go to New York City and winning an NIT championship. It's not a National Championship, but it's still a championship of the particular tournament that we entered. At this point, our only 2 options are to win it or to lose it. So we might as well try to win it.
It’s great for the team but just keep it in perspective. It’s the NIT.
I’ve enjoyed the brand of basketball much better with the rule changes. It appears the refs are letting the kids play.
You guys are nuts, if you don't think the NIT isn't important to the players and coaches then quit watching and please don't bitch like little babies. If you aren't excited while watching a very young team play some exciting basketball then you aren't real basketball fans much less real Msu fans!
Yeah it pisses me off reading what a few have said, we haven't had much success in men's basketball plus we don't have a bunch of tradition in basketball, please don't post any longer about this team if you aren't fired up!
I love the rules the NIT have applied, it opens up the middle plus moving the 3 point line back, 5 foul per quarter with shooting tow and I love the 20 second shot.
I would rather be OAD in tourney, but I love getting to watch this team play 5 extra games!
I personally think winning the NIT is a lot more beneficial in the long run than going one and done in the NCAAs. I look at it like the OOC did for our team. We are right now developing as a team for next year's run. Everyone needs to look at the NITs like you would the Gator Bowl. Winning gives us momentum going into the offseason that hopefully translates to next year's team.
Also, this team is the most fun I have had watching Men's basketball in a long time. Just watching Peters develop into a team player is worth the price of admission. The guy was just concentrating on getting to the NBA and the team was suffering for it. Howland sat him down and he finally got his head right. Now we look like we could go toe to toe with anyone in America.
This little run is a big positive for the program and gives us some momentum heading into next season. You always want to win the trophy if possible- and that would be great. Bringing back all 5 starters after a run like this does nothing but help us in 2019.
That was great basketball last night, in front of big hostile crowd. You can enjoy it for the performance that it was, and maybe even more so for what it is a preview of. The MSU team on the floor last night looked like sweet 16 possibility to me.
Btw, there was a rebound Ado got, he soared way above the rim in traffic on the offensive end, caught it with one hand came down and went right back up for a dunk! It was a NBA type play, it was the play of the game for me.
The NIT makes us one of the few teams that is still playing. Since it's finishing at MSG, I'm pretty sure it will be among "all the news that's fit to print." It's not a national championship, but it means a lot to our program. I'm grateful.
Also playing in the Garden with the New York Press can't hurt, exposure is a powerful thing.
I hope like hell we hang a banner!
Playing and winning in the NIT isn't important***
Walking Dead was the #1 rated Cable Show at one time. Not sure what it is now. When Fox's Bill OReilly Show was going strong, he was the #1 cable show until The Walking Dead started. He used to joke on-air that maybe he needed to schedule a few zombies on his show to get back to #1. My favorite off-the-wall cable shows are "Moonshiners", "Life Below Zero", "Highway to Hell", and "Cops". Oh well, guess we all have our misspent time shows!!
The team's performance last night was what we have waited on for years. It's the way basketball should be played and I loved it. If we had been OAD at the NCAA we would have never seen that performance and as a fan that would have been a shame. The team now has a shot at a championship and that in itself is a big morale booster in my book.
I can assure you that had anyone been sitting in the Yum Center last night they wouldn?t be minimizing the value of the NIT. That was by far the loudest crowd in a hostile environment that I have ever experienced. 22,900 Louisville fans and they were on their feet for 3 1/2 quarters. I was sitting behind our bench and to watch the players interact during the game demonstrated the maturity and development of this team. Anyone who thinks this is of little or no value in ignorant or naive. What most saw on TV was a small part of the giant step this team has taken.
I would say beating Baylor on their home court and beating Louisville on their home court back-to-back is equivalent to winning against slightly better teams (read ncaat teams) on neutral courts. So in essence, this proves we would have held our own in the big dance. Not saying we deserved to be there because our resume didn't, but just that we were a tournament team without the resume.
The NIT is a much bigger deal if you make it to NYC which we have.
It's the NIT. These teams didn't make it. Aside from the 5-10 each year that get automatics and shouldn't be there, these aren't top 50 teams we're beating. Just how it is. I'll watch and be happy each win, but it's still simply practice for next season. It's a participation trophy but you get to improve yourself with the extra practices. How many teams from the NIT final 4 made the NCAA's this year? 1? The team that won it was a one and done team this year (tough matchup with Syracuse). Bakersfield made the final 4 last year. It's not a big deal beyond the practice and extra games. It's basically a low-end bowl game.
Are we going to tell recruits that we're a NIT team? No. All they're worried about is that damn One Shining Moment video.
I'm more excited about next year. This year is nothing special even if you win the NIT.
Obviously you didn't watch much basketball around the country this year with saying some teams in the NIT aren't or weren't worthy of the Ncaa. Teams like Msu, Baylor and Louisville have a little harder road ahead of them they say team who wins the a title at a mid major school. Yes our pre season losses and schedule hurt our chances, but to think the NIT isn't important to you well why comment or try to bring down a positive with our program.
Me being an ex basketball Coach will tell you as would every Coach I know that this is real important (NIT). I suppose you will be against hanging a banner IF we win this thing? Our present history sucks and maybe this is the start to changing things!
Liver, I love your passion overall for Msu, but dude you are so wrong about Msu playing in the NIT. I'm kinda shocked with your reaction about us playing in the Garden and the exposure we will get. We aren't a basketball rich traditional school, this is a big deal such as us playing in a non New Year's bowl game in football after many losing seasons. Expectations for basketball haven't been very good over the years. How you can't be excited and down grading the program is disgusting to me. You can do better, or I hope you can.
Don't attend when we raise the NIT Championship Banner at the Hump, you will be disappointed, LOL!
Btw, didn't realize that the butt whipping we gave Louisville last night was the worse margin of defeat in their history at the Yum Center. That is amazing in itself with their history.
This is a perfect example of someone who doesn’t understand the process of building a winning program and is only focused on today. You acknowledge the value of the extra practices, but then minimize what that means to the program’s development. If you can’t see what this participation trophy has done for the confidence and team chemistry, then you simply don’t know what it takes to build a program. Go tell anyone on the team or any of the coaches thus doesn’t mean anything...
As for recruits, check Robert Woodward’s tweets if you think it doesn’t mean anything to them.
Or you could continue with the same negative BS you have spewed all year about thus team all year.
You raise the banner, but you don't go crazy over it and you don't read too much into it. No matter how you slice it you are still playing other teams that didn't get into the real tournament. It's a great experience for the team and the extra practice is very valuable. Just don't carried away.
Carried away? I read a few comments from the players as well as recruits, seemed they are "carried away"! LOL
How many Ncaa tournaments do you think we have attended, also look at how many NIT tournaments we have attended, even less. We needed this run way more so than one and done in the Ncaa. At least we get exposure and folks are still talking basketball.