making the NCAA tourney and losing in the 2nd round.
making the NCAA tourney and losing in the 2nd round.
I have to believe there's more to the story than just on court performance. She's led them to the NCAA tournament four of five years with their lowest seed being a 6 seed this year.
I doubt she has an issue finding employment unless there is something else going on.
Does anybody think we're tough on coaches? We had a quick trigger on Arnett, but that was a pretty unique situation for the hiring and firing. We fired Morehead fairly quickly, but if he had just kept players from embarrassing the school on the bowl trip, he'd have kept his job despite wasting one of the most talented teams we ever had and following it up with an underachieving year.Quote:
Originally Posted by 99jc
We let Jackie stick around for several years, we gave Croom five years without his side of the ball ever producing, Richard Williams was safe despite the fall off in performance if he had just been more selective about his extra curricular activities, we let Stansbury run his course and kept him on as an employee until his next job, we gave Rick Ray a third year even though his conference win percentage was 19.4% after the first two years; we gave Howland all the time he wanted.
I think we're very fair with our coaches I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
Only the clownish ones....... like Lemonis!😂😂😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
Tennessee women's has unrealistic expectations. I thought she was doing a really good job.
Tennessee has been replaced by South Carolina as the top SEC women’s basketball program. They are trying to find a Dawn Staley or a Kim Mulkey to get them back to the top again. I could see Bama possibly having this issue with DeBoer and other future coaches if Kirby builds a similar dynasty at UGA like Saban did at Bama
No, our fan base has this weird mentality that seems like they want to set any successful coach up for lifelong retirement at MSU and that’s not how the world works. They also have this great fear of the “media” and this great backlash that MSU is supposedly going to suffer from with every coaching firing. The truth is the “media” doesn’t give a s h i t one way or another about us.Quote:
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I mean what firing have we conducted that wasn’t justified? Croom and Ray? Please. Cannizzaro? Justified. Howland? It was time and Jans proved it to be the right move.
We let Jackie go on one or 2 years too long and our lazy ass AD served us up with the worst hiring in the MSU modern era. Thank goodness that Byrne had balls and wasn’t listening to our cowardly decision makers that are scared crapless to piss off the mythical media.
Dan, I believe, was due to fatigue on both sides. He should have stuck it out another year but Loafers got desperate.
Stains? The same thing. It was fatigue and time for him to go. He should have left when he flirted with Clempson and he could have saved himself and his family the embarrassment of being relieved of his duties.
They miss the Summit days and want to relive it. The problem with that is that Tennessee will have a hard time achieving that again. Summit was a generational coach and you are not replacing her. State had Vic and State will not achieve that greatness in a very long time or ever again.
I think this is something all schools with that type of success struggle with in every sport. Bama struggled with it post Bear; Texas has post-Royal; UT post-Summit; UK post-Rupp and post-Pitino; UNC post-Dean Smith, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
Success at high level over an extended period is rare and becoming rarer but fans expect that level to continue or else. Plus, sports change continually. Changes in rules, make up of conferences, eligibility rules, etc. all impact everything and make that success difficult if not impossible to replicate.
Not only was summit a great coach, she benefited immensely from women's basketball being a sport few people cared about for most of her career. La Tech had two different national championship coaches that kept La Tech a national power for the better part of three decades and nobody cared enough to hire either coach away. You'd have sweet 16 games that were the equivalent of a 1/16 matchup in the men's game because there was such a huge drop off in talent after a handful of programs. That's just not the case now.Quote:
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Rocky Top panicking after UK hired Kenny Brooks. Big Blue nation gonna be scary in women's hoops in a few years; book it!!Quote:
Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG