So is there going to be a second NOA or is the amended NOA the end of the investigation? Just curious because I am kinda shocked there was nothing about the draft night in the new one.
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So is there going to be a second NOA or is the amended NOA the end of the investigation? Just curious because I am kinda shocked there was nothing about the draft night in the new one.
The Three Stooges are sitting on a pile of charges they didn't release in the Cliff Notes video because they're damning. There's a lot more to the LOIC. We don't know what's in the NOA in full...yet.
yeah I figured. Just curious
The NCAA is STILL investigating
Anyone have any idea of when the 2nd NOA may get leaked?
When do they enough is enough and just shut down their entire program?Quote:
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I think as long as TCUN continues to sugar-coat EVERYTHING they give the general public and their fanbase, and as long as TCUN continues to deny the severity of their actions that have allowed the LOIC charge to be levied, the NCAA will be all up in their garbage til the end of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg34
For the investigation to come to a close, TCUN has to show some contrition and be willing to accept (and not fight) the charges pending imo.
The fact they're still investigating is actually, and finally really, good news for Ole Miss. They kept saying that over and over. "This is actually good news." Well, now it is. It's a pretty clear indication that they don't intend to hand down the death penalty for the existing violations, or at least the investigative side of the NCAA doesn't think so. Otherwise, there would be no return on the continued investment of furthering the investigation.
Are they trying to get Archie now? That would be a death blow for om to have to disassociate from Archie as he's made out to be Mr. Big behind the Network.Quote:
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People laughed about that "2nd letter" for a while, are they laughing about the "3rd letter"? Doubt it.Quote:
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I agree, but I do expect a "3rd letter" at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
If they are now investigating what they have done while being under investigation then the next NOA should have the death penalty in it. The current NOA is one of the worst since SMU and they will then get hit with repeat offender status. I think that is why the NCAA concluded when they did so that they could issue another NOA. The punishment is far worse for drunk driving if you get caught leaving the courthouse parking lot after getting off with probation from your previous drunk driving arrest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
3rd Letter is probably just another conspiracy by Dan Mullen. Just like the investigation of Hugh Freeze. We never knew that Dan has more power than Saban, Myer, and Harbaugh rolled into 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by SDDawg
Someone refresh my memory - what was the most recently allegation that was added in this updated NOA? Given that statements were made about the lack of the Tunsil draft night stuff, I'm curious if the newly added allegations were specifically only within a less-recent time period (aka, a few recruiting classes ago). If that's true, combined with rumors/knowledge of the NCAA still investigating, might suggest the NCAA simply added what they found on old leads and feel are likely exhausted, compared to more recent information like Tunsil's draft night and the more recent recruiting classes.
All speculative, mind you, since I don't recall what years the added violations span...
During the video, it was noted that the new allegations did not include the draft night and beyond. The amendment was only up to the draft. So, there has got to be more dirt to be dug and laid out.
Is that a charge that could be included? The reason why I ask about this delicate topic is because of the indications from players that they get sexual favors from big donor daughters. If the parents are forcing their daughters to do these acts, could it not be considered rape? As much as I dislike many of the UM fans, these indications make me sick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Howboutdemdogs
If I am misunderstanding any of the players admissions, please correct me.
I thought UM was just bringing hookers down from Memphis. I thought they learned their lesson that they couldn't take their recruits to Memphis to get laid so they just bus them down to Oxford.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bamboo
It has been my understanding that someone, a big alum or whoever, is bringing down escorts from Memphis to facilitate the recruits on the big weekend. That's sex trafficking and a major no no. That's a felony with serious prison time.Quote:
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I think that IF the NCAA ever gives them the death penalty it's not going to come until after at least two NOA's. They are going to have to make sure that they have a very legit reason and make sure that everyone in the free world understands why the ruling was legit. So far we have the one NOA and the addendum which are both going to be crushing. A second NOA could be the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
Yeah, if they get another letter, it's over.
I wouldnt read too much into the draft night stuff not being in there specifically. The reason it's not in there is bc the NCAA has to speak to both parties in order to corroborate the texts. They probably talked to Miller and Farrar, but Tunsil refused since he had no obligation to do so. Therefore, it cannot be included bc they cant speak to the other party, Tunsil. I think it's that simple.
BUT, while not specifically mentioned, it embarrassed the NCAA enough to ramp things up to the immunity level which led to the most incriminating evidence. While its not included specifically in the NOA, draft night's affect is definitely in there, and it will be a factor in the punishment as well IMO.
They don't just want Archie, they want the whole damn thing, the way that The Network has played this game has been the absolutely worst thing that could have happened to UNM. The Network decided to be untruthful, and deceitful a throughout the entirety of the investigation and they are going to pay for it. The NCAA is going to kick the whole rotten house down, they haven't stopped investigating and won't until the gig is over. Bend over and say Ahhh bears this one is going to hurt when it's over.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
But but but... untruthful, and deceitful = exemplary cooperation??? I is so confused.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
I wish they'd put the evidence out there for all to see with the NOA, because OM fans will never believe that their beloved coach did anything wrong unless hard facts are put out there. They still may not believe it.
Exactly. They will be punished for the draft night stuff whether or not the NCAA includes it in the report. It will be the same concept as Al Capone's sentencing for tax evasion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coldsleeve Jr.
Whether or not the COI will be going for the DP is debatable but it is clear that the investigators want to burn the whole thing down. The cheating OM did is the biggest threat to the NCAA.
or that their beloved administration out-n-out lied to them again during the video informing of the ammended NOA because there is soooooooo much more to come when it is officially released.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boodawg
The Mann Act?Quote:
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Wait wait wait.....Quote:
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Is this true? Or just grapevine speculation? Did Rosebowl mention this? If this is true (and it wouldn't surprise me), then the death penalty will have to be an option, because it's evident traditional penalties and investigations aren't stopping them.
They never were going to hand out the death penalty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
Did Bdork say in the video that the investigation is officially completed? That this is all behind them now and it is time to move forward. Would he really put himself out there like that if it were common knowledge that the NCAA is still investigating?
Yes, he would put himself out there yet again. While they are getting crushed by the NCAA, they're still trying to win the media and the message the media puts out. By putting out the youtube video, they were able to cherry pick the allegations to release that best suited their agenda. This is an attempt to lessen the articles written when Bjerk actually release the entire NOA. Manipulating the media message probably just pisses off the NCAA thoQuote:
Originally Posted by Hrdawg82