How can even the most die-hard Landsharks think they cooperated with the NCAA?

I can't wrap my head around this level of brainwashing. They did the total opposite. Their middle finger has been in the air since January 2016.

Yes and hopefully that will mean increased penalties.

History has shown throughout this whole ordeal the times they come out with positive spin the real news is worse than what we even thought.

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Originally Posted by Hasu Dackds

I can't wrap my head around this level of brainwashing. They did the total opposite. Their middle finger has been in the air since January 2016.

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They don?t think that. They just say that. They are about outward appearances. Funny, nobody else believes it.

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They don?t think that. They just say that. They are about outward appearances. Funny, nobody else believes it.

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This. Their inferiority complex is huge. To be seen as contradicting the official story line would be admitting that Mississippi State is actually better on many levels than their beloved Old South University and that is just totally unacceptable to them.

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This. Their inferiority complex is huge. To be seen as contradicting the official story line would be admitting that Mississippi State is actually better on many levels than their beloved Old South University and that is just totally unacceptable to them.

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Narcissistic Personalty Disorder....an all-pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behaviour), need for admiration or adulation and lack of empathy, usually beginning by early adulthood and present in various contexts

has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)

is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

believes that he or she is “special” and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institution)

requires excessive admiration

has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations

is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends

lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others

is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her

shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

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They don?t think that. They just say that. They are about outward appearances. Funny, nobody else believes it.

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I think they really do believe it. They have convinced themselves they are entitled to do what they have done and it really isn?t that bad.

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Narcissistic Personalty Disorder....an all-pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behaviour), need for admiration or adulation and lack of empathy, usually beginning by early adulthood and present in various contexts

has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)

is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

believes that he or she is ?special? and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institution)

requires excessive admiration

has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations

is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends

lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others

is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her

shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

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It's amazing. It's like the whole bunch has the same mental disorder. I know someone with it, though not an Ole Miss person, he certainly thinks like they do.

As to the OP, youve got to remember this is the same.bunch that thinks when the COI hands down penalties they're going to be against us, not Ole Miss, in the ultimate gotcha moment. Even though we are not under investigation nor have we been to a COI meeting held in our honor.

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I think they really do believe it. They have convinced themselves they are entitled to do what they have done and it really isn?t that bad.

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I don?t think they do.

I think they keep saying it in hopes that it will come true. Kind of like how a kid keeps saying he didn?t lie when the parent has already decided to paddle them for lying.

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I think they really do believe it. They have convinced themselves they are entitled to do what they have done and it really isn?t that bad.

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They also really believe that they self-reported most of the violations and that they provided most of the information regarding each. This is comical, by the way, given that the NCAA verbally smacked them down in their response about committing violations while they are under investigation. How exemplary.

Have yet to see any one of them angry at their adminstration for allowing the cheating, lying about the cheating they knew was going on, or even hinting that they are to blame for their own situation.

This is copy pasted straight from the NCAA response to Ole Miss second NOA.

"The enforcement staff did not identify any mitigating factors applicable to Freeze because the facts and circumstances did not warrant any. Freeze did not self-detect and/or self-disclose any of the violations in this case or promptly acknowledge the violations in which he is named nor accept responsibility for them. Additionally, the football program under his supervision does not have an established history of self-reporting Level III or secondary violations; it self-reported only 12 of 62 such violations from the 2012-13 academic year through February 22, 2017.
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Further, Freeze was unable to demonstrate that he promoted an atmosphere of compliance or monitored his staff, and therefore did not implement a system of compliance methods designed to ensure rules compliance and satisfaction of head coach control standards.He also did not meet the high standard required for exemplary cooperation."

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This is copy pasted straight from the NCAA response to Ole Miss second NOA.

"The enforcement staff did not identify any mitigating factors applicable to Freeze because the facts and circumstances did not warrant any. Freeze did not self-detect and/or self-disclose any of the violations in this case or promptly acknowledge the violations in which he is named nor accept responsibility for them. Additionally, the football program under his supervision does not have an established history of self-reporting Level III or secondary violations; it self-reported only 12 of 62 such violations from the 2012-13 academic year through February 22, 2017.
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Further, Freeze was unable to demonstrate that he promoted an atmosphere of compliance or monitored his staff, and therefore did not implement a system of compliance methods designed to ensure rules compliance and satisfaction of head coach control standards.He also did not meet the high standard required for exemplary cooperation."

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This all day long... I'm of the opinion that after penalties are assess for the violations, TCUN should be further penalized for being the dicks they've been toward the ncaa (and SA 39, and their fellow SEC institutions, and the mandated privacy concerns to all involved, and to the entire investigation process).

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This is copy pasted straight from the NCAA response to Ole Miss second NOA.

"The enforcement staff did not identify any mitigating factors applicable to Freeze because the facts and circumstances did not warrant any. Freeze did not self-detect and/or self-disclose any of the violations in this case or promptly acknowledge the violations in which he is named nor accept responsibility for them. Additionally, the football program under his supervision does not have an established history of self-reporting Level III or secondary violations; it self-reported only 12 of 62 such violations from the 2012-13 academic year through February 22, 2017.
509
Further, Freeze was unable to demonstrate that he promoted an atmosphere of compliance or monitored his staff, and therefore did not implement a system of compliance methods designed to ensure rules compliance and satisfaction of head coach control standards.He also did not meet the high standard required for exemplary cooperation."

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Another lie from their Cheerleaders