And choked as usual. We should have been watching Georgia beat Ohio State or Clemson last night. But yet again, Dan Mullen will be remembered for what he didn't do at MSU, rather than what he did do.
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And choked as usual. We should have been watching Georgia beat Ohio State or Clemson last night. But yet again, Dan Mullen will be remembered for what he didn't do at MSU, rather than what he did do.
I thought about that last night also. If danny boy coached the 4th quarter like he did the first 3 bama wouldn't have even been in the playoffs. Of course Kirby coached the 4th quarter last night like danny boy did.
2009 LSU goal line loss, didn't make a bowlQuote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
2010 didn't sign Cam then lost a heartbreaker to him
2011 Auburn goal line loss
2012 Egg Bowl loss reignited their program
2014 loss to Bama's worst team of Saban's tenure since 2007 killed our season
2015 no one specific thing, just a waste of Dak's senior year culminated in egg beatdown at home and terrible recruiting
2017 Bama loss, stupid coaching, allowed the most terrible fanbase ever 70 miles from us to continue their damned dynasty
2017 Egg Bowl loss, though I can't blame it all on him, it's just one more thing in a long list
Some more particularly damaging things:
Total meltdown on NSD 2011
2012 we get to be the first bowl win ever for Northwestern yay
2016 shorts and South Alabama
He never won when something major was on the line. The only things that come close:
2013 bowl eligibility by winning 2 OT games
2014 being #1 though it ultimately meant nothing as we got no trophies
bowl streak
Only good thing I can say about him right now is that he left before he burned the whole thing to the ground like Jackie, and erased us as the coaching and quarterback graveyard. For that I'm thankful.
But good riddance to that dude
And those few good things "not running us into the ground" and "erasing us as the coaching and QB graveyard" are a pretty dang big deal. No other coach in 100+ years of football has been able to do the latter for sure when it comes to QBs.Quote:
Originally Posted by 5049
That's our ticket to success having a versatile QB that is a dawg out there and can take over a game on his own.
Line some of those years up with job searches and it gets more pathetic. Funny how we beat om in the years he wasn't whoring himself out or Nutt was the coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by 5049
Damn....it's a real shame we had to endure Mullen's tenure !!! ********************
That 4th quarter against Saban was kind of a common denominator wasn’t it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Give it a rest guys. Mullen had more better seasons than any coach at MSU since the 40’s. Same goes for less bad seasons. The guy did a lot for MSU and I will always be greatful. I will also never appear ungrateful.
Let's look at that:Quote:
Originally Posted by BB30
Here's our 2-loss seasons in recent memory:
1976: 9-2 (wasn't this a Rocky Felker team)
1980: 9-2 with a bowl loss (John Bond and good offense)
1999: 9-2 with a bowl win (great defense)
2014: 10-2 with a bowl loss (Dak Prescott and good offense)
We can go further and add some of our most talented teams in there:
2000: 8-4 with a bowl win (great defense)
2010: 8-4 with a bowl win (great defense)
2018: TBD (most complete team I can remember)
So what is the formula? When I look at those 1999, 2000, and 2010 teams, I see a ton of JUCOs mixed with a solid group of high school players and no real holes on defense. Obviously the hole was quarterback on those teams. Most people say we got lucky in 1999 with an easy schedule. So seems the good money is on an offensive system with a solid dual threat quarterback, mixed with a defense built on home grown talent, whether it's high school or JUCO. Imagine if Dak Muffins had realized this sooner, perhaps it wouldn't have taken him 10 years to build the complete team we've been waiting on for a long time.
Ain't that the truth. He sucked so bad we have to refer to him by a different name.**Quote:
Originally Posted by AROB44
This is not true. Take away the 12th game against FCS competition (read: gimme win) and he was no better than Jackie. Muffins missed his opportunity to be the best MSU coach ever, I outlined that in the OP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Truth. Seems to be for every team that's close to bama in the 4th quarter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
After the last 3 yrs of Jackie and Croompacolypse we've forgotten real football and Merlin coaches us like an average coach should do and we think he's actually done something fantastic. Freeze ass raped him too many times for me to give him glowing praise. Yeah, he changed our program for the better but there are other coaches after Croom that could have done the same thing.
But they didn't. Dan did.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
There seems to be a pucker factor that Saban somehow eliminates most of the time. The AU kick six and Clemson pick play are the rare times I remember Bama losing at the end. Bama for the most part seems to play loose when most tighten up. It could be just my perception of it but it is almost like we are trying not to lose and Bama just knows they are about to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
You got it, brothaQuote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
I don't deny that. Dan was also his own worst enemy.Quote:
Originally Posted by sleepy dawg
I can't wait until you guys tell us how much Moorhead sucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by 5049
Oh wait. It will be Bo Lesshead. Or will it be Blow Moohead.
Will you guys go ahead and figure out the stupid nicknames for Moorhead now so we can start practicing?
Yep. It seems like its always been that way with Bama, for as long as I can remember. Whether it was Bear, Stallings or Saban those coaches always seemed to be able to call on that bama mojo in the 4th quarter to pull things out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe
I will give Mullen credit, he got us to a point of expecting bowls every year. There aren't a lot of programs in the SEC that consistently goes to bowls every year. It seems like the only time we beat a better team was when the bowl streak was on the line. Hopefully Moorhead will take the next step and actually compete for the West. It wouldn't have been a spot in Atlanta but laying a turd against UM in 2014 still pisses me off. It would at least be a share of the West title but Dan shoping his name and fighting with Collins were probably big factors in the team sleep walking in the Egg Bowl.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
I appreciate Mullen but we also paid him a shit ton of money and he half assed recruiting and the end of some seasons. Did he do a good job? I would say yes but he also shouldn't be above reproach.