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Commentators seemed to think we need to win out and win 2 in the SECT to be on the bubble (which I think is horseshit.) I think if we win out, take 1 or 2 in the tourney then we should be in. If we don't beat a good Tennessee team at the Hump, then I think we'd probably need to make the semi's of the SECT. Lose to USCe or LSU, and I think we'd have to win the whole thing to be in.
We have to win the next three, and probably one in St. Louis. The non-conference schedule is killing us, but we wouldn't be where we are if we hadn't don't it that way.
Cant lose to South Carolina or LSU probably. If we win out I think we are in. Anything in the tourney is close.
If we win the other 2 (wont be easy) and lose to UT, we would need 1 or 2 in the tourney to make it
Winning out and reaching the semifinals of the SECT probably does it unless we're super unlucky with the bubble. 11-7 should give us a double bye, so that's just 1 win in St. Louis.
Lose another regular season game, and it's probably win the SECT or out.
Bart Torvik gives us around a 60% of making it if we win out but lose the first game in the SECT.
http://www.barttorvik.com/teamcast.p...+St.&year=2018
I don't listen to folks like them. They don't know and are only guessing.
As long as we don't lose to USC at home and finish above .500 the next slate of games, I don't see how we don't get in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Losing to LSU on the road wouldn't be a bad loss.
We are in the tournament with 3 more wins.
They’re interviewing Lunardi about our chances on the sec network after the game that’s on now goes off.
My God.......how fun would March be. Turkeys and us finally back in the tourney......im getting teary eyed
It's not a bad loss per se, but we're still sitting with an RPI in the 60s and need to improve 15-20 spots. Missing an opportunity to improve our RPI @ LSU would be devastating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Covercorner2
This is what sucks about college basketball.
It?s pretty easy with the eye test to see we are a tournament team and if it wasn?t for two terrible calls at Mizzou and Vandy, we are easily in.
Those announcers are the dumbest on the SEC network...and that's saying something.
Howland has officially gotten us to the standard that stansbury set...on the bubble late. And just like durin the stans era it's what happened out of conference that has us squarely on the bubble instead of squarely in.
Win out + 2 in tourney.... they will take A&M and UK even if they don't win another game... UGA is the team we have to be worried about getting picked over us...
This is the correct answer. 11-7 and a top 5 finish in the SEC gets us in. End of story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
So we have to win 25 games? Holy shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked
We won 26 games in 2004.
He’s wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Covercorner2
Yep. And finishing 11-7 in conf most likely gets us the double bye in the SEC tourney and thats a huge advantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
11-7 4 seed we winQuote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Add 1 win in St. Louis & that's the correct answer. A loss in the 1st game would make us have to do some unnecessary sweating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
3-0 to finish and we are in. A Top 5 SEC team with the conference RPI is not getting left out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
I think I saw that if we when out, the lowest seed we could get is a 4. No way they leave us out if that happensQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Win 3 more and in. Tonight?s win was huge.
Good old Joe has them as the next four out, which is the four out behind the first four out so it should be called one of the last 8 out. I think a win vs South Carolina and Tennessee would move them either into the last four in or the first four out. Then they would need to see where the chips fall from there. If I had to guess if they win out the regular season they are in. They will beat whoever they play in first round of sec tournament if they are good enough to finish season 9-2. If they loose any of the next three games they are going to be either the first team out or last team in. I think it would be that close. If they loose 2 of the last three, they are out.
The thing that a lot of you are not taking into account is that because of our weak OCS they will be looking for reasons to leave us out, not for reasons to take us.
If we finish 11-7 in 1 of the toughest leagues in the country winning 9 of their last 11 regular season games, they'll be talking about how no one wants to face us in the tourney.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Hopefully you are right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
the whole selection process sucks ass. A&M could lose the rest of their remaining games and they are already in. That's 17ing is insane. giving more weight to having your ass handed to you by a good team than soundly beating a lesser team. 17 that. we shouldn't be fighting for our lives to get in like we are based on our overall SEC play. PERIOD. this 17ing sucks.
Haven?t you learned that your sound logic is not appreciated here? These people want to melt like a snowball in July at the drop of a hat. I think 10-8 gets us in after last night and our two shit losses due to referees. They?ve been saying 8-9 SEC teams in tourney this year. I?m still waiting on someone to make an argument that we aren?t in the top 6. Let alone 8-9.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
we are winning the SEC tourney.
During this entire time they have been saying 8 SEC teams are getting in not once have they listed MSU amongst the 8. The simple fact is guys we are having to scramble to make up serious ground that our OOC put us in. Yes we looked a lot better than Texas A&M last night but and this is a big but aTm looked a whole lot better than us for all of Nov and Dec. They looked so good then they made it to being ranked #5 in the country. We haven't even sniffed the top 25 all year. They take the entire year into consideration not just the SEC. If we don't ever want to have this feeling of scrambling to make up Howland MUST MUST MUST schedule a top 100 OOC SOS moving forward. Had he done that this year and we had survived it with a 12-1 record we would be a 5 or 6 seed right now not still on the outside.Quote:
Originally Posted by RougeDawg
If we finish 3-0 we have a pretty good shot. We'll have to beat Kentucky to do it as I think they are about to get really hot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs
So are we throwing the eye test completely out the window? Thought that was a key factor as well. If the eye test really does count as much as these clowns say it does we are in with a 10-8 conference record. At some point these talking heads have to be held accountable and have to be forced to stop talking out of their Merlins. They can?t keep spewing shit for 3 months and backtracking when their team sucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Head to head does matter which would be your "eye test" of a single game. aTm is an odd example as they looked better than Duke for two straight months and then have had non-stop suspensions and injuries that have really derailed them. If it's me in charge I am not putting aTm in if they finish 7-11 in the SEC. They are clearly not the same team they were at the beginning of the year. I do think in their case the committee is going to look at their injuries, suspensions and stumble to the end and they will punish them by placing them in the first four games. Our problem isn't aTm necessarily it's the other 20 teams on the bubble that will all be feeling jaded if we get in without clearly showing we deserve it because every single one of them has a much better OOC than us. We are in the 300's for OOC strength of schedule. That's like trying to win a boxing match after losing all of the first 8 rounds. Can we still get in? Yes but it's gonna take us winning all our games in the regular season and 1 in the SECT. When I said yesterday was the start of do or die for us I wasn't joking. We are in elimination mode for the NCAAT. Survive and advance.Quote:
Originally Posted by RougeDawg
If A&M loses 3 more to go 7-11, they arent getting in
Go look at the other thread where someone posted a NCAA team sheet the committee uses to evaluate teams under the new set up. We don't rank very high in that stuff. It sucks but it's what we are dealing with. The OCS is killing us. We needed it at the time, but its an anchor around our necks now. We HAVE to have 3 more wins, and most likely 4.
As long as our RPI is around 40, I agree. I think it may take another 1-2 wins in the SECT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
3-0 and a top 4 finish gets us in. End of storyQuote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
I agree with this but I'd like 1 win in the SECT too just to make sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Ageed. At least 1 win in the SEC tourney sure would be nice thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34