Woolly Thread - There Appears to Be Disconnect with MSU's Football Team

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08-22-2017, 06:36 PM
Spiderman

If we had an avg. D last year, we win 8-9
08-22-2017, 06:44 PM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by Spiderman

If we had an avg. D last year, we win 8-9

You are 100% correct. BYU, SA, UK and maybe Arky but Allen was playing very well that night.
08-22-2017, 07:01 PM
MSUDawg99

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

You are 100% correct. BYU, SA, UK and maybe Arky but Allen was playing very well that night.

So was Fitz. Our defense never showed up. They must've thought the game was AT Ark & hit the road.
08-22-2017, 07:12 PM
maroonmania

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

This was the conversation on the B&B show this morning & I found it intriguing.

A few days ago Barrett Sallee was interviewing Booger McFarland about Nick Fitzgerald & Booger made the following statements.

- Fitz will be top 2 to 3 QB in SEC

- Fitz will rush for 1,000 yards (rushed for 1,375 last year)

- Fitz will have 3,500 passing yards (Passed for 2,423 yards last year. I think 3,500 is too much. Will probably be around 2,700 - 3,000)

- Fitz will have 40 to 50 TDs (Last year Fitz had 21 pass TDs & 16 rush TDs for total of 37 TD)

- MSU will be a 6-6 to 7-5 team

Now here is where things get exciting:

MSU lost 4 games in 2016 by 7 points or less. I realize the schedule is more difficult this season, but, unless MSU's defense is dramatically worse in 2017 than 2016 or we have massive amounts of injuries, it's virtually impossible for Fitz to put up numbers similar to what Booger said & only win 6 or 7 games. If Fitz puts up those type of numbers we are likely at least an 8 win team.

We saw a similar situation a few years ago when Dak was named 1st team all-SEC preseason QB but MSU was picked last. It didn't add up then & it doesn't add up now.

"I haven't spent much time studying Fitzgerald, but his name has come up several times in my conversations with NFL scouts. In fact, every single one of them told me the Mississippi State signal caller is the best quarterback in the SEC. He posted impressive rushing numbers last fall and has prototypical size/athleticism. He's improving as a passer and scouts believe he has a very high ceiling in that department. I'm anxious to dig in and study his play this fall. Fitzgerald could be the breakout star in the SEC, if not the entire country."

Per Booger Fitz must be the greatest QB ever! I mean per what Booger said, Nick has no blocking, no playmakers at WR and no difference makers at RB yet is going to be able to rush for over a 1,000 yards, pass for 3,500 yards and account for 40 to 50 TDs. Fitz apparently will be just this side of Superman if he can do all of that while opposing defenses don't have to worry about anyone else on the field in our offense.
08-22-2017, 07:25 PM
Kyper

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Originally Posted by Mobile Bay

We will beat Auburn. Maltzahn can't coach a qb how to poor piss out of a boot with instructions on the heel. Stiedham is going to flop hard, like every other Maltzahn QB

Cam Newton and Nick Marshall disagree. Mike Henig could QB this Auburn team to 8 wins. Stidham wins at least 10 games
08-22-2017, 07:31 PM
Kyper

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Originally Posted by Spiderman

If we had an avg. D last year, we win 8-9

D did their job vs South Alabama and BYU. We still lost those games. D did their job vs LSU- lost that game. Our offense struggled alot last year whether people want to admit it or not. Our offense finished 7th in the SEC despite playing alot of weak defenses last year.
08-22-2017, 07:36 PM
Pollodawg

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Originally Posted by Kyper

D did their job vs South Alabama and BYU. We still lost those games. D did their job vs LSU- lost that game. Our offense struggled alot last year whether people want to admit it or not. Our offense finished 7th in the SEC despite playing alot of weak defenses last year.

Yup. D had nothing to do with South Bama, LSU, or BYU. All three of those games are on the offense. Fitz was terrible in BR and nothing more than average in Provo.
08-22-2017, 08:12 PM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by Pollodawg

Yup. D had nothing to do with South Bama, LSU, or BYU. All three of those games are on the offense. Fitz was terrible in BR and nothing more than average in Provo.

Well shit, I guess we shoulda kept Sirmon then.***
08-22-2017, 08:35 PM
Jack Lambert

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Originally Posted by Pollodawg

Yup. D had nothing to do with South Bama, LSU, or BYU. All three of those games are on the offense. Fitz was terrible in BR and nothing more than average in Provo.

S Alabama Offense went through our defense like our defense was high school the second half. Their offense made adjustments at half but our defense did not. It was all about coaching. SC did the same thing the very next week.
08-22-2017, 08:39 PM
tireddawg

I don't know about 50 td's. I do know that Dan has gotten better at developing qbs since he's been here. I believe he learned alot with Dak, which will only help Fitz more.
From what I've heard Fitz has the work ethic and knows the O inside and out. Won't be any thinking this year. I think he has a very special year, his name will be brought up for the draft, and we win 9 games.
08-22-2017, 08:43 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by Pollodawg

Yup. D had nothing to do with South Bama, LSU, or BYU. All three of those games are on the offense. Fitz was terrible in BR and nothing more than average in Provo.

So Fitz hurdles into the end zone in OT at byu to give us a lead and all the defense had to do was fall on a fumble after a sack on byu next possession and game over but they couldn't get it done. Defense blows a 20 point second half lead to usa. Those 2 were on the defense as well as arky and uk.
08-22-2017, 08:52 PM
Political Hack

Fitz is a man eater. He's a more powerful and explosive version of Dak. Dak has that "it" factor that separates him, but Fitz is more athletically gifted than Dak. That's obvious to everyone, and he's got the same guy coaching him.
08-22-2017, 09:00 PM
Kyper

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

So Fitz hurdles into the end zone in OT at byu to give us a lead and all the defense had to do was fall on a fumble after a sack on byu next possession and game over but they couldn't get it done. Defense blows a 20 point second half lead to usa. Those 2 were on the defense as well as arky and uk.

Our D only gave up 14 points in regulation vs BYU. Thats a winning effort.
Our offense couldnt move the ball or score a point vs South Alabama in the 2nd half, costing us the game. When South Alabama shuts out an SEC team in the 2nd half of a game that is 100 degrees- your offense sux. Thats not on the D
08-22-2017, 09:09 PM
Pollodawg

Whatevs, gentleman. We will see soon enough.
08-22-2017, 09:12 PM
BrunswickDawg

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Originally Posted by Kyper

Our D only gave up 14 points in regulation vs BYU. Thats a winning effort.
Our offense couldnt move the ball or score a point vs South Alabama in the 2nd half, costing us the game. When South Alabama shuts out an SEC team in the 2nd half of a game that is 100 degrees- your offense sux. Thats not on the D

I seem to remember that Williams was the Qb for almost all of that shitfest
08-22-2017, 09:13 PM
Pollodawg

I feel like Rhett Buttler when he told all of the folks at the BBQ that the South couldn't win a war with words. I may be unpopular now, but just you wait until we finish 6-6.
08-22-2017, 09:17 PM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by Pollodawg

I feel like Rhett Buttler when he told all of the folks at the BBQ that the South couldn't win a war with words. I may be unpopular now, but just you wait until we finish 6-6.

I'll be extremely happy with 8-4. Extremely.
08-22-2017, 09:18 PM
Pollodawg

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

I seem to remember that Williams was the Qb for almost all of that shitfest

Is it because Fitz was 0-4 to start the day? Fitz is a good QB. One of the best in the conference, but let's be reasonable. The offense sputtered at times even with him at the helm.
08-22-2017, 09:21 PM
Pollodawg

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

I'll be extremely happy with 8-4. Extremely.

I will be too, but I don't see us beating AU @ AU, UGA @ UGA, and TAMU in Kyle Station or Arky at Arky. We are not beating Bama.

We win all 4 ooc plus U.K. And OM
08-22-2017, 09:27 PM
HSVDawg

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

I'll be extremely happy with 8-4. Extremely.

Same here. Gut tells me 7-5 with us flipping BYU and UK to the W column, taking care of business against the other 3 nonconference teams, and flipping A&M to the L column. Loss to UGA. All other outcomes would be the same as last year.

I do think our one swing game upset opportunity is LSU. We'll need to play a lot better up front than we did last year though. And we'll definitely need Rivers to help slow down Guice.

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