Yep, just like I think Dale Murphy should be in the HOF. He was one of, if not the most feared hitter in the game during the 1980s, a two time MVP, silver slugger, gold glove awards....etc.
There is a St Louis baseball writer who has a vote that is working to cost Chipper votes because Chipper joked about putting gators in the Rio Grande to stop illegal immigration ... so that?s one vote he won?t get
Sheffield is a definite yes but the Crime dawg was basically just good but not great
crime dawg was almost platoon material against all decent lefties
As a Braves fan, I still remember Kevin Brown basically owning us in several series loses
Andruw Jones should make it, but he won?t
While I personally wouldn’t vote for Jones, his numbers are more impressive than most people realize. And talking about Biggio, his kid played ball with mine. I’m 6’1, 215. I’d guess he’s about 5’9, 170. But he’s a health freak, so I’m not sure I buy him on roids. A couple years ago, I had a couple flights with Conseco. That sum beach don’t have a brain cell left. Was jacked up on something both flights. Could barely speak.
Baseball Reference has 4 different formulas that measure players' Hall of Fame credentials:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/p...onesan01.shtml
Andruw Jones meets the standard on 1 of the 4, which is admittedly more than I would have assumed, so he should at least be in the conversation and get enough votes to stay on the ballot for 10 years.
Bill James has written some great books on the Hall of Fame and things to look for in a true Hall of Famer. The Politics Of Glory is my favorite. Great reads if you love baseball and it?s history.
I prefer fangraphs. Here is their article on Andruw...
https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/in-d...e-credentials/
No one holds a candle to Andruw defensively in CF. This graph was taken from the fangraphs article I linked above...
https://s9.postimg.org/6tr98rgf3/444...4_E9_F79_A.jpg
The difference between Andruw (best defensive cf) and #2 willie mays is huge.
Here is another good one from the NYT - https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/10/s...l-of-fame.html
It rates Andruw and the best defensive outfielder of all time.
I agree Andruw was an elite defender. That's kind of an odd chart though and I wonder what stats they used. I have never heard or seen an stats that say Jesse Barfield was the greatest defensive rf and Brian Jordan was 2nd best. And Willie Wilson as the greatest defensive LF? Willie Wilson arm was so weak he couldn't throw me out at the plate. And 2B Bill Mazeroski nowhere to be found and by every defensive statistic and metric out there he is one of the greatest defensive players of all time regardless of position. Mazeroski: his 113 defensive career Win Shares is 1st all time in the history of MLB for a second baseman. I loved watching Andruw play and he was no doubt one of the elite defenders of all time but some of those others on the chart, I question what they were actually using to achieve these results.