SWAC Southern 9, LSU 6 thru 6 innings

The Natty curse has become real

Now 12-7 top9....yikes

Southern wins 12-7.

That's baseball!

Southern beats LSU 12-7

There has to be something to all of these rough seasons after a NC. I've seen similar things happen to MLB teams after they win the World Series too sometimes.

Sooooooo Jay Johnson is a shitty coach. No excuses. Needs to be fired right?

Who LSU needs to hire now? They arent going to win a Natty

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

There has to be something to all of these rough seasons after a NC. I've seen similar things happen to MLB teams after they win the World Series too sometimes.

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It's called the Robert Johnson effect!***

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Originally Posted by parabrave

It's called the Robert Johnson effect!***

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Maybe so! I want to do some research on this at the end of the year.

I have a feeling it's different for each team to be honest.

We may be the most puzzling of the three because I think our pitching coach mysteriously bottomed out. I don't think ours was talent related really. And I don't totally buy the we were reading our press clippings theory. Although maybe Foxhall did and the rest of the staff suffered and that affected the rest of the team. Although at the same time there was some evidence of potential pitching fallout before but I think Landon Sims and Will Bednar were just too good to screw up and they covered up a LOT. When they were injured or left then the damn broke. We severely underdeveloped Cade Smith, Parker Stinnett, Jackson Fristoe, KC Hunt, Eric Cerentola, and etc. It's worth noting that Auburn's team ERA is 10th in the SEC right now and 12th in SEC games at over 7.

Ole Miss was a case of basically being "that's baseball" Fresno State. They were the last team in and simply got hot and Dave Van Horn made some mind numbing WTF? decisions earning him the nickname the Mike Martin of the SEC. They lost a good bit of their team and had some injuries to their ace and then the bottom fell out on them.

LSU having watched them a good bit even last year I felt like they had two generational players in Dylan Crews and Paul Skenes basically doing the heavy lifting with Tommy White as a supporting guy who could pop a home run at any time. The rest of the team in and of itself was good but didn't really stand out to me that much- and I felt like the bullpen was a weakness even last year. Then Thatcher Hurd got hot for them at the right time otherwise they probably don't quite win it. In other words they sold their soul to get a generational pitcher and were unable to replace him with another generational pitcher because there wasn't one in the portal.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Maybe so! I want to do some research on this at the end of the year.

I have a feeling it's different for each team to be honest.

We may be the most puzzling of the three because I think our pitching coach mysteriously bottomed out. I don't think ours was talent related really. And I don't totally buy the we were reading our press clippings theory. Although maybe Foxhall did and the rest of the staff suffered and that affected the rest of the team. Although at the same time there was some evidence of potential pitching fallout before but I think Landon Sims and Will Bednar were just too good to screw up and they covered up a LOT. When they were injured or left then the damn broke. We severely underdeveloped Cade Smith, Parker Stinnett, Jackson Fristoe, KC Hunt, Eric Cerentola, and etc. It's worth noting that Auburn's team ERA is 10th in the SEC right now and 12th in SEC games at over 7.

Ole Miss was a case of basically being "that's baseball" Fresno State. They were the last team in and simply got hot and Dave Van Horn made some mind numbing WTF? decisions earning him the nickname the Mike Martin of the SEC. They lost a good bit of their team and had some injuries to their ace and then the bottom fell out on them.

LSU having watched them a good bit even last year I felt like they had two generational players in Dylan Crews and Paul Skenes basically doing the heavy lifting with Tommy White as a supporting guy who could pop a home run at any time. The rest of the team in and of itself was good but didn't really stand out to me that much- and I felt like the bullpen was a weakness even last year. Then Thatcher Hurd got hot for them at the right time otherwise they probably don't quite win it. In other words they sold their soul to get a generational pitcher and were unable to replace him with another generational pitcher because there wasn't one in the portal.

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And we had a few super Type A studs on that team.

Bednar and Sims made Lemonis a lot of money. Also as far as Ole Miss is concerned, if Lemonis doesnt pitch Forsythe in Governors cup game and blowing a big lead Ole Miss doesnt make NCAA Tournament and win NC.

LSU is 18-3 in nonconference play. Their losses outside the SEC are not the problem.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Sooooooo Jay Johnson is a shitty coach. No excuses. Needs to be fired right?

Who LSU needs to hire now? They arent going to win a Natty

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LSU will 100 % fire him if he has 2 years like we had the past 2 years post natty.

You wanna bet they won't finish last or next to last in the SEC two years in a row?

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Originally Posted by Saltydog

You wanna bet they won't finish last or next to last in the SEC two years in a row?

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There is somewhere around a 99.9% chance that does not happen.

So the only serious we've won is against a bad LSU team. This actually makes me feel worse. I had started thinking we were good.
We did seem to be better than Florida though. So there's that.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Sooooooo Jay Johnson is a shitty coach. No excuses. Needs to be fired right?

Who LSU needs to hire now? They arent going to win a Natty

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when he was at arizona, his pattern was omaha-miss the tourney-omaha-miss the tourney-omaha. Maybe not exactly, but something close.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Maybe so! I want to do some research on this at the end of the year.

I have a feeling it's different for each team to be honest.

We may be the most puzzling of the three because I think our pitching coach mysteriously bottomed out. I don't think ours was talent related really. And I don't totally buy the we were reading our press clippings theory. Although maybe Foxhall did and the rest of the staff suffered and that affected the rest of the team. Although at the same time there was some evidence of potential pitching fallout before but I think Landon Sims and Will Bednar were just too good to screw up and they covered up a LOT. When they were injured or left then the damn broke. We severely underdeveloped Cade Smith, Parker Stinnett, Jackson Fristoe, KC Hunt, Eric Cerentola, and etc. It's worth noting that Auburn's team ERA is 10th in the SEC right now and 12th in SEC games at over 7.

Ole Miss was a case of basically being "that's baseball" Fresno State. They were the last team in and simply got hot and Dave Van Horn made some mind numbing WTF? decisions earning him the nickname the Mike Martin of the SEC. They lost a good bit of their team and had some injuries to their ace and then the bottom fell out on them.

LSU having watched them a good bit even last year I felt like they had two generational players in Dylan Crews and Paul Skenes basically doing the heavy lifting with Tommy White as a supporting guy who could pop a home run at any time. The rest of the team in and of itself was good but didn't really stand out to me that much- and I felt like the bullpen was a weakness even last year. Then Thatcher Hurd got hot for them at the right time otherwise they probably don't quite win it. In other words they sold their soul to get a generational pitcher and were unable to replace him with another generational pitcher because there wasn't one in the portal.

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I think our situation was a combined effect of Foxhall just giving up/checking out or whatever you want to call it AND we basically missed out on the first year of the transfer portal. We were still playing in Omaha while other teams were pillaging all the overlooked talent out there. They got better and we didn't. All of that spilled into last season too.

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So the only serious we've won is against a bad LSU team. This actually makes me feel worse. I had started thinking we were good.
We did seem to be better than Florida though. So there's that.

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Lsu is not a bad team, they are super talented as always, they're just still trying to figure out the pieces this year. The lost some big weapons last year. College baseball is always a work in progress.

ETA Also the sec is as competitive and as talented and deep as i've ever seen it.

Wonder if anybody on the LSU boards is posting that State got beat by Central Arkansas today? You know, to make them feel better.