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Kendall Graveman is projected as the A's #1 starter this year, Chris Stratton is expected to be the Giants #5 starter. Pretty amazing what Graveman has become. Moreland will continue to be in a platoon at 1b for the Red Sox this year. Adam Frazier should continue to see lots of ABs for the Pirates 4th OF and backup 2b. Justin Holder is in the Yankees bullpen again and Jacob Lindgren is expected to break camp in the Braves bullpen. Hunter Renfroe is the Padres 4th OF. Who am I forgetting?
Woodruff? Tyler Moore?
Looks like Woodruff is starting the year in AAA for Brewers and Moore is a free agent still so his career may be winding down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skydawg1
Woodruff probably won't be down long- at least until his super two eligibility expires. I think Dakota Hudson makes it up this year with the Cardinals. Probably in the bullpen but starting is a possibility as well. Rooker could make it with a strong year also but not until September.
Jonathan Holder**Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
I haven't kept up w holder this spring but I knew his velo was down from 16.Quote:
Originally Posted by louisvilledawg
Justin in Jonathans little brother. Who probably will be better than him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
We on him?Quote:
Originally Posted by parabrave
He is in the 9th grade.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bully13
Renfroe can destroy lefthanders. But can't hit righthanders. He's destined to platoon unless he figures it out. Strikeout/walk ratio is killing him.
Graveman was pretty good all along. A guy in college who threw a sinker that most hitters could do nothing with but ground it into the turf and then follow up with fastballs in the low 90's. Felt pretty sure he was headed for success in the pros even while at MSU. But yeah, the top pitcher for the A's is really great for him!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
He's never going to hit for avg. what he can do is hit 25/30 hr. If you want a 275 hitter he's not your guy. Padres should have known this. Some teams deal w it. Some don't or won't. Reds didn't mind Dunn k'd 200 times a year for 40 hr. Same w renfroe. Parallel is the sameQuote:
Originally Posted by somebodyshotmypaw
What killed Renfroe is his OBP (.284). Dunn is similar in that both have big power and terrible defense, but Dunn has a career walk rate of 15.8% which resulted in a career .364 obp. Renfroe just cannot get on base enoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
I actually thought Renfroe was one of the better defensive right fielders in the game was he not?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
No. Baseball reference and fangraphs rate him a negative defender in both of his seasons. He was pretty bad according to their ratings last seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by Choctaw Dawg
Did they rate anyone as "good"? I'm being serious.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Sure.
2017 fangraph dWAR leaders:
1. Andrelton Simmons
2. Anthony rendon
3. Mookie betts
4. Brandon Crawford
5. Francisco lindor
6. Yadier Molina
7. Corey seagar
8. JT realmuto
9. Byron buxton
10. Didi gregorius
Not fair to even list these guys. Some of these dudes are HOF type defenders. How did Renfroe rate defensively vs other rookie OFs?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Aaron judge = -1.3Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Andrew Benintendi = -3.9
Manuel Margot = 7.0
Just 3 I could think of off top of my head. To show you how bad Renfroe was...
Renfroe = -11.1
Matt kemp = -13.9
All dWAR using fangraphs
I'll trade dansby for Simmons. BTW Who did we get when we traded Simmons?
Ok this is a much better list and damn Renfroe does suck but holy shit I had no idea Matt Kemp was that bad. Wth? Does he constantly take bad routes to the ball or something?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
NewcombQuote:
Originally Posted by parabrave
Kemp has no range, and yes, he takes bad routesQuote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
What set his career on a whole new trajectory was learning a cutter in the minorsQuote:
Originally Posted by Pit Bull
Renfroe has a cannon for an arm, there's no denying that. His issue is when the ball is hit in the air into RF.Quote:
Originally Posted by Choctaw Dawg
Graveman's era is 9.98. He is getting destroyed early this season. Needs to turn it around
Stratton is 1-1 with a 2.60 ERA. Pretty good start.
Renfroe hit a 2 run HR vs Giants tonight that was a straight laser. Looked like a 1-iron off the deck.
Stratton got the “W” Thursday night, giving up only 1 hit in 7 innings in the Giants 7-0 win over the Padres.
Renfroe also had an outfield assist an inning before his HR which prevented another Giants run.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Renfroe finished with 3 RBI?s.
Holder back down in AAA. Had a couple of bad innings which got him to a 20.98 ERA. Having a lazy outfield doesn't help either. Actually the entire Yankees BP is having trouble.
Strat dealin' tonight. Giants up 2-0, and he's gone 7 innings so far, with no runs, and 8ks.
Stratton with another gem tonight. 7ip 0r 3h 8ks
Odd we were both bumping this thread about Stratton at the same time. You using my backup skin or am I using yours? (Altered Carbon reference)Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
Na....skillz*Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61