Mullen- It's time for you to make a big decision

What I'm writing today is straight to the point. I know it will be met with some applause and some boos. But- It's time.


Dan Mullen- its time to dedicate yourself to Miss. State or its time for you to get gone after the 2016 season. It's commitment time. Dont ask the players, the fans, the administration, and faculty, or anybody else for their commitment when you havent given that yourself. You asked for upgraded practice fields, an expanded stadium, and a new football facility- we gave you that. You asked for the fans to buy in and support you completely- we gave you that. We have made Scott Field a tough place for people to come play- which helps make your job easier. You want "strain"- well you got it from your support system.

It's time for you to stop the buddy system that's holding you back. People hire our defensive assistants away every season. We couldnt give Sallach, Hevesy, and Greg Knox away if we tried. Sallach and Hevesy couldnt recruit a fat woman to a dessert table- yet they stay employed. They are an albatross hanging around your neck. Our OL's- while usually coached pretty well- are always less talented that most of the SEC. That has cost us dearly the last two seasons. You only get so many chances to compete for the West- and we pissed it away with an inferior OL while having the best player in school history at QB. Not one draft pick from the OL recruited by you, Hevesy, and Sallach. That's just pathetic.

It's time for you to stop shopping every offseason. It bit you in the ass good this recruiting cycle. I dont know if the rumor is true, and I pray its not- but if you really flew to interview with Miami Thanksgiving Day and flew back- I want you gone. You dont do that kind of shit with the Sugar Bowl on the line. It may just be a BS rumor- but its out there and was used against you by other staffs.
You control if your name is out there or not. Nobody was mentioning Freezus or Bielema for every damn job that came open- but your agent made sure that yours was. Thats on you. Either stop that shit or GTFO. Stop playing the middle to the public and allow people to view you as someone just biding their time in Starkville. It took Jackie Wayne 6-7 years to do that himself- but when he finally stopped having one foot out the door and realized what he had- he got us to Atlanta. Commit or get gone.

It's time to commit to recruiting. It's more than a necessary evil- it's got to be done with passion. OM and Freezus arent the only people throwing money around- the others are doing it too- but they are winning battles with their passion for it. You guys are lazy recruiters and have that reputation. Reps are usually earned and from what Ive seen firsthand- its dead on. We are solid- but we get crushed vs top teams time and again. We dont ever pull the big upset because our OL is getting dominated. Our OL recruiting has to change immensely. Finishing 31st in the country after 19 wins the last 2 seasons means there is a problem. Showing people you can win here is supposed to enhance recruiting- not make it harder. We had miss after miss this recruiting cycle- thats inexcusable. Something has to be done.

Stop half-assing it Dan. Commit and do what the other coaches are doing in recruiting, commit and remove your name from job searches until you actually accomplish something, commit and make some hires that will enhance the staff and program- or carry your ass out of town somewhere else. It's beyond time.


C34

Regardless if he is dedicated or not he is stuck at Miss State until one of two things happen. He get's fired or He wins the SEC west. He makes 4 million a year. No school is going to match that until he wins big. Schools who can do it want's someone who has won conferences championships and can recruit. The other one's will not come up with the money.

So He needs to man up one way or another.

gotta admit - I'm totally with you on this one

Great post 34...

For goodness sake Mullen, WHY HAVEN'T YOU FIRED YOUR AGENT? well, we know why.

You have a great fan base & support system at MSU & we believe you are a good coach & we want you to succeed at MSU. But, in order to do that, you've got to passionately commit to the future of MSU football & the university. I understand that when you were growing up in New Hampshire & Pennsylvania, spending the prime years of your life in Starkville, MS probably wasn't on the list of your top dreams. However, that's your reality & you can't make the most of that reality until you commit to it.

As fans of MSU, we passionately love our school, football program, & state, & we want & deserve a head coach that believes in those same values. The biggest recruit you have to land over the next few weeks is yourself. If you do that & passionately commit to maximizing every single area of MSU football & university, I believe you are good enough as a football coach to take MSU to a level that has never been realized.

If you don't do this, then please do us all a favor & GTFO

This gets 2 thumbs up!


I will add, what I really want is the Dan Mullen that showed up here in Starkville 7yrs ago. Passionate,brash and hungry.

Too bad none of this matters, since Dan keeps a leather-clad Stricklin locked in a chest in his basement.

Well said and I have felt this way for a loooooong time.

I'm afraid that Mullen has dug himself a hole that he can't climb out of in the next 3-4 years. His professional reputation is crap. Big time recruits don't trust him. He's labeled as a snitch by other coaches and that is being preached to recruits. It prevents him from doing the "business" of recruiting.

Every Bulldog Club member should print this, sign it, and mail it to Dan Mullen with cc to Scott Stricklin.

I could not agree more.

Scott and Dan need to make changes. You asked for our commitment and we gave it. Time to see the same out of them.

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Can I email this to Scott Stricklin? I already emailed him once this a.m. complaining about this shit show. Haha. What's another damn email!

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Originally Posted by PassInterference

Every Bulldog Club member should print this, sign it, and mail it to Dan Mullen with cc to Scott Stricklin.

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Damn straight. That letter needs to be emailed to stricklin now. CDM better not be offered an extension either with 0 raise, hell he should give the school back 2 million

Yeah, it was not good for anyone including him to put himself out there this off season. Dumb move on his part. When he was exposed, he should have just committed to leaving and took the Maryland job. It would have been better for us both to move on. Besides he can land the Penn St job from Maryland just as easily as he could here. Or move back to another SEC job easier from Maryland than at State (if you believe the SEC no hiring within).


Disclaimer: I am not advocating for him to leave or MSU to fire him next year. I just believe it is in his heart to leave and his leaving is inevitable, December 2016.

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Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen

Yeah, it was not good for anyone including him to put himself out there this off season. Dumb move on his part. When he was exposed, he should have just committed to leaving and took the Maryland job. It would have been better for us both to move on. Besides he can land the Penn St job from Maryland just as easily as he could here. Or move back to another SEC job easier from Maryland than at State (if you believe the SEC no hiring within).


Disclaimer: I am not advocating for him to leave or MSU to fire him next year. I just believe it is in his heart to leave and his leaving is inevitable, December 2016.

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Been saying this myself

I totally agree with paragraph 2 concerning the buddy system with Hevesy and Sallach. They are indeed an albatross around Mullen's neck and need to go.

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Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen

Yeah, it was not good for anyone including him to put himself out there this off season. Dumb move on his part. When he was exposed, he should have just committed to leaving and took the Maryland job. It would have been better for us both to move on. Besides he can land the Penn St job from Maryland just as easily as he could here. Or move back to another SEC job easier from Maryland than at State (if you believe the SEC no hiring within).


Disclaimer: I am not advocating for him to leave or MSU to fire him next year. I just believe it is in his heart to leave and his leaving is inevitable, December 2016.

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Well right now our HC job is very attractive to a lot of up and coming coaches. Let's at least say that our football job is more attractive than our basketball job was where we just hired Ben freakin' Howland. SO, if Mullen is not committed to being here and busting his tail for us both in coaching and recruiting then I would rather him move on now than drag the program down before we go coach shopping again.

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Originally Posted by Jack Lambert

Regardless if he is dedicated or not he is stuck at Miss State until one of two things happen. He get's fired or He wins the SEC west. He makes 4 million a year. No school is going to match that until he wins big. Schools who can do it want's someone who has won conferences championships and can recruit. The other one's will not come up with the money.

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That's pretty much the bottom line. If he continues to half ass recruit BUT manages to win 7-8 games a year, he will be here forever whether he or the fans like it or not.

Good job.

C34...is there any way to find the answer to the Miami job flight at Thanksgiving?? Not that it matters but I would like to know......

I want us to, "coach shop" every year now, and not try to hide it from Mullen. He's done it to us too damn often, so let's let him sweat-it-out every damned year!

I want Dan feeling like the Sword of Damocles is hanging over his head, just like his courting of other schools has felt to us. Let him think every damn year better see his best effort, or he is gone.

DAMN sure don't want to see any extension anytime soon. For all the good he's done, he has KILLED us with this BS.

Some great posts in here! Couldn't agree more. One question I have is should we start getting a little more aggressive asking these kids to commit or would it make any difference?

Any mention of a raise should be given to the assistants not named Hevesy and Sallach. I am all for giving Turner and Gonzalez a raise. Not sure on Knox.

We can not lose out on recruits literally in our backyard like Brown and Lashley...

That just can't happen... period...

Changes have to be made, but I don't have any faith in our Admin to do anything..

Well said coach, If Mullen would just win a big game everynow and then it would make a HUGE difference but losing to Miles, Sumlin, Freeze and Saban damn near every year and in some of those games we look completely unprepared is taking its toll, especially considering we're 7 years in.
It's painfully obivous today that all this turnover is really hurting our recruiting, we just can not build relationships with HS players and coaches with all this turnover. Thank GOD Turner didn't leave this year.
All I want from Mullen is for him to meet the goals he set for our program. If he does that, I'll be his biggest fan.

Nothing will change until big money gets Stricklin's and Keenum's attention. It's like the 600lb people on TV trying to lose weight; nothing works until the enablers want to see change.

Solid gold, C34. Solid gold.

Coach 34,

I'm with you on this one buddy.

Some good stuff. Some inaccurate stuff. But good points. Nice job

Nailed it!!

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Originally Posted by PendingTransaction

I'm afraid that Mullen has dug himself a hole that he can't climb out of in the next 3-4 years. His professional reputation is crap. Big time recruits don't trust him. He's labeled as a snitch by other coaches and that is being preached to recruits. It prevents him from doing the "business" of recruiting.

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Add to this that he`s pissed away almost all of his attractiveness as a candidate for another power 5 head coaching gig and I think you will have summed it up nicely. If Dan was a boat he`d basically be dead in the water. Now it`s just a matter of the clock ticking down I`m afraid.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

What I'm writing today is straight to the point. I know it will be met with some applause and some boos. But- It's time.


Dan Mullen- its time to dedicate yourself to Miss. State or its time for you to get gone after the 2016 season. It's commitment time. Dont ask the players, the fans, the administration, and faculty, or anybody else for their commitment when you havent given that yourself. You asked for upgraded practice fields, an expanded stadium, and a new football facility- we gave you that. You asked for the fans to buy in and support you completely- we gave you that. We have made Scott Field a tough place for people to come play- which helps make your job easier. You want "strain"- well you got it from your support system.

It's time for you to stop the buddy system that's holding you back. People hire our defensive assistants away every season. We couldnt give Sallach, Hevesy, and Greg Knox away if we tried. Sallach and Hevesy couldnt recruit a fat woman to a dessert table- yet they stay employed. They are an albatross hanging around your neck. Our OL's- while usually coached pretty well- are always less talented that most of the SEC. That has cost us dearly the last two seasons. You only get so many chances to compete for the West- and we pissed it away with an inferior OL while having the best player in school history at QB. Not one draft pick from the OL recruited by you, Hevesy, and Sallach. That's just pathetic.

It's time for you to stop shopping every offseason. It bit you in the ass good this recruiting cycle. I dont know if the rumor is true, and I pray its not- but if you really flew to interview with Miami Thanksgiving Day and flew back- I want you gone. You dont do that kind of shit with the Sugar Bowl on the line. It may just be a BS rumor- but its out there and was used against you by other staffs.
You control if your name is out there or not. Nobody was mentioning Freezus or Bielema for every damn job that came open- but your agent made sure that yours was. Thats on you. Either stop that shit or GTFO. Stop playing the middle to the public and allow people to view you as someone just biding their time in Starkville. It took Jackie Wayne 6-7 years to do that himself- but when he finally stopped having one foot out the door and realized what he had- he got us to Atlanta. Commit or get gone.

It's time to commit to recruiting. It's more than a necessary evil- it's got to be done with passion. OM and Freezus arent the only people throwing money around- the others are doing it too- but they are winning battles with their passion for it. You guys are lazy recruiters and have that reputation. Reps are usually earned and from what Ive seen firsthand- its dead on. We are solid- but we get crushed vs top teams time and again. We dont ever pull the big upset because our OL is getting dominated. Our OL recruiting has to change immensely. Finishing 31st in the country after 19 wins the last 2 seasons means there is a problem. Showing people you can win here is supposed to enhance recruiting- not make it harder. We had miss after miss this recruiting cycle- thats inexcusable. Something has to be done.

Stop half-assing it Dan. Commit and do what the other coaches are doing in recruiting, commit and remove your name from job searches until you actually accomplish something, commit and make some hires that will enhance the staff and program- or carry your ass out of town somewhere else. It's beyond time.


C34

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I agree 100% with C34. This goes all the way to the AD. Its time for some accountability.

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Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX

Some great posts in here! Couldn't agree more. One question I have is should we start getting a little more aggressive asking these kids to commit or would it make any difference?

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That's tricky because it depends on the kid. If we did that with AJ he may have just flipped. Rumor is Rosebowl pushed him to do something and it backfired big time.

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Originally Posted by ElitedawgRecruiting

Some good stuff. Some inaccurate stuff. But good points. Nice job

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What's inaccurate? Let's get it out there...

If he wants to know he can ask me. I ain't airing dirty laundry on here

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

That's tricky because it depends on the kid. If we did that with AJ he may have just flipped. Rumor is Rosebowl pushed him to do something and it backfired big time.

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Rosebowl didnt do us any harm with AJ. Rosey has been getting a bad wrap. He did a solid job this year

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Originally Posted by ElitedawgRecruiting

If he wants to know he can ask me. I ain't airing dirty laundry on here

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We'll just disagree. I know people that I also trust that are adament that some of these things happened. Again- Mullen controls whether his name is out there or not. He controls it totally thru his agent.

depends on where the rumor is coming from.

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Originally Posted by ElitedawgRecruiting

depends on where the rumor is coming from.

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Exactly.

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Originally Posted by ElitedawgRecruiting

If he wants to know he can ask me. I ain't airing dirty laundry on here

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Yeah everything else has been on such great point. I wouldn't trust it anyways. These ****ing connections are garbage because they are connected to garbage.