MS Sports Media

Why is it that sports media in MS feel the need to constantly belittle the teams in this state? What?s the gain for them? Are they seeking national cred? From Bo arguing hypotheticals with people about who he ?thinks? Mullen would leave us for to Jake being overly pessimistic on everything to Weiner talking for 20 minutes yesterday about he believes there?s no doubt MSU basketball is in trouble over the FBI probe saying ?why would any player want to go there and out of the blue they start getting players?. Hell it might be true but at the his point there is no evidence for any of these accusations whether it?s what job Mullen would take to trouble with basketball.

I?ve lived in 4 states and the local media there never talked about their programs like these guys do. If it warranted, like OM NCAA stuff, Redmond, etc that?s fine and fair game.

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Originally Posted by HaggardDawg

Why is it that sports media in MS feel the need to constantly belittle the teams in this state? What?s the gain for them? Are they seeking national cred? From Bo arguing hypotheticals with people about who he ?thinks? Mullen would leave us for to Jake being overly pessimistic on everything to Weiner talking for 20 minutes yesterday about he believes there?s no doubt MSU basketball is in trouble over the FBI probe saying ?why would any player want to go there and out of the blue they start getting players?. Hell it might be true but at the his point there is no evidence for any of these accusations whether it?s what job Mullen would take to trouble with basketball.

I?ve lived in 4 states and the local media there never talked about their programs like these guys do. If it warranted, like OM NCAA stuff, Redmond, etc that?s fine and fair game.

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Agree. It's perplexing.

I've never figured this out either.

Not sure how a state that's already low on self esteem is supposed to ever overcome that when it's state motto is "pump your brakes"

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Originally Posted by HaggardDawg

Why is it that sports media in MS feel the need to constantly belittle the teams in this state? What?s the gain for them? Are they seeking national cred? From Bo arguing hypotheticals with people about who he ?thinks? Mullen would leave us for to Jake being overly pessimistic on everything to Weiner talking for 20 minutes yesterday about he believes there?s no doubt MSU basketball is in trouble over the FBI probe saying ?why would any player want to go there and out of the blue they start getting players?. Hell it might be true but at the his point there is no evidence for any of these accusations whether it?s what job Mullen would take to trouble with basketball.

I?ve lived in 4 states and the local media there never talked about their programs like these guys do. If it warranted, like OM NCAA stuff, Redmond, etc that?s fine and fair game.

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Did they harp on Freeze getting a top 3 class with no success in college football? At least Howland can actually point to the fact that he has been a top 10 level coach in the country and he develops NBA MVP and Allstars.

Jake Wimberly pissed me off last week when he said there was "no way" MSU would EVER have a top 10 football recruiting class...

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If we did some how get a top 10 recruiting class we'd be "in trouble" just like "that other school 90 miles away."

Not once did he take into account any scenario where om could be on life support from the NCAA along with other SEC teams not named Alabama taking a drop in recruiting b/c of coaching changes. He just said it was impossible for us to ever bring in a top 10 recruiting class.

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Jake Wimberly pissed me off last week when he said there was "no way" MSU would EVER have a top 10 football recruiting class...

AND...

If we did some how get a top 10 recruiting class we'd be "in trouble" just like "that other school 90 miles away."

Not once did he take into account any scenario where om could be on life support from the NCAA along with other SEC teams not named Alabama taking a drop in recruiting b/c of coaching changes. He just said it was impossible for us to ever bring in a top 10 recruiting class.

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Here's what is weird to me. We're poised to have a lot of success in football over the next few years and yet we have MSU people trying to get as many people as possible to pump the brakes all of a sudden. Talk about fear of failure.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Agree. It's perplexing.

I've never figured this out either.

Not sure how a state that's already low on self esteem is supposed to ever overcome that when it's state motto is "pump your brakes"

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Because to a lot of people just going 6-6 to 8-4 every year is a lot easier to feel good about because to them that's better than going for 8-4 to 10-2 because we might not get there ever so they don't want to be frustrated because they went for a higher goal and failed. Of course by not going for the higher goal they don't achieve it either and our full potential is never reached.

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Originally Posted by HaggardDawg

Why is it that sports media in MS feel the need to constantly belittle the teams in this state? What?s the gain for them? Are they seeking national cred? From Bo arguing hypotheticals with people about who he ?thinks? Mullen would leave us for to Jake being overly pessimistic on everything to Weiner talking for 20 minutes yesterday about he believes there?s no doubt MSU basketball is in trouble over the FBI probe saying ?why would any player want to go there and out of the blue they start getting players?. Hell it might be true but at the his point there is no evidence for any of these accusations whether it?s what job Mullen would take to trouble with basketball.

I?ve lived in 4 states and the local media there never talked about their programs like these guys do. If it warranted, like OM NCAA stuff, Redmond, etc that?s fine and fair game.

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Weiner all but guaranteed that MSU basketball is going down hard.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Because to a lot of people just going 6-6 to 8-4 every year is a lot easier to feel good about because to them that's better than going for 8-4 to 10-2 because we might not get there ever so they don't want to be frustrated because they went for a higher goal and failed. Of course by not going for the higher goal they don't achieve it either and our full potential is never reached.

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LMAO

My only guess, it is the known formula among sports media to generate clicks and maximize sponsors. You talk trash about OM, you lose money. You talk trash about State and it upsets the State fans and gets them listening and the OM people continue to buy air time.

That is the only logical explanation I have.

I think they want cred from their peers in other states, who also enjoy bashing MS schools.

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Originally Posted by MadDawg

Weiner all but guaranteed that MSU basketball is going down hard.

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When you say "going down hard" do you mean our team will suck? or that we are somehow ensnared in a NCAA/adidas thing?

I haven’t noticed much in State bashing of Ole Miss. they are afraid to do it. They have no problem going after us. Heck our own people do it too.

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Originally Posted by MadDawg

Weiner all but guaranteed that MSU basketball is going down hard.

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Who is this Weiner you speak of? Yes, I've lived out of state for a while and never heard of him

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Originally Posted by MadDawg

Weiner all but guaranteed that MSU basketball is going down hard.

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There is not one single thing that has come out so far to link us to this, except the fact that we wear Addias. Never mind that none of the arrests so far were at Addias schools. Nike is up to their eyeballs in this too, but somehow that never seems to get mentioned. Just another example of the media ignoring UM’s obvious troubles for years but going out of their way to link us to anything they can, even when there is no link.

And for the love of God stop linking Barret Sallee?s Smothered Covered on BSR. I liked Jake until he got the afternoon ESPN show. His tone has drastically changed. Look I?m not looking for sunshine pumpers, just stop unnecessarily piling on for no reason when the trends in ALL MSU sports is trending up.

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Jake Wimberly pissed me off last week when he said there was "no way" MSU would EVER have a top 10 football recruiting class...

AND...

If we did some how get a top 10 recruiting class we'd be "in trouble" just like "that other school 90 miles away."

Not once did he take into account any scenario where om could be on life support from the NCAA along with other SEC teams not named Alabama taking a drop in recruiting b/c of coaching changes. He just said it was impossible for us to ever bring in a top 10 recruiting class.

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Well he better get ready because we have zero in state competition next year and it's the best crop of in state kids this state has had since 09. If we land them all and get any out of state blue chip guys it will be around 10.

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Originally Posted by louisvilledawg

When you say "going down hard" do you mean our team will suck? or that we are somehow ensnared in a NCAA/adidas thing?

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sorry, he was referring to the FBI/Adidas/NCAA thing

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Originally Posted by MadDawg

Weiner all but guaranteed that MSU basketball is going down hard.

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**** that guy ...
his last name is Weiner for ****s sake
See it's jack ****s that say shit like this and when it doesn't happen it's swept under the rug and no one remembers but if by some chance something does he is the first to suck his own cock saying told ya so even tho he has zero sources or evidence to back it up .

ED lobbed all u media ****s a softball with Freeze and om 4 years ago and no one ran with it . If any one of u *****s would of had the balls to do something with it maybe ur careers would have gotten some good run ..

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

There is not one single thing that has come out so far to link us to this, except the fact that we wear Addias.

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He states emphatically that the only reason Howland was hired was because he was "an Adidas guy". Which he implies - no strike that - which he again emphatically states was because Howland plays the shoe company game.

And for those that don't know, John Weiner is a radio guy who used to have his own show(s) but now is a guest or guest host on all the other ESPN radio shows locally. He also, along with Jake Wimberly, are self-professed MSU fans.

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

**** that guy ...
his last name is Weiner for ****s sake
See it's jack ****s that say shit like this and when it doesn't happen it's swept under the rug and no one remembers but if by some chance something does he is the first to suck his own cock saying told ya so even tho he has zero sources or evidence to back it up .

ED lobbed all u media ****s a softball with Freeze and om 4 years ago and no one ran with it . If any one of u *****s would of had the balls to do something with it maybe ur careers would have gotten some good run ..

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True statement.

The topic of this thread is why I get all my MS team media coverage here. If it's relevant and worth a read, it'll be discussed or linked here.

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Originally Posted by MadDawg

He states emphatically that the only reason Howland was hired was because he was "an Adidas guy". Which he implies - no strike that - which he again emphatically states was because Howland plays the shoe company game.

And for those that don't know, John Weiner is a radio guy who used to have his own show(s) but now is a guest or guest host on all the other ESPN radio shows locally. He also, along with Jake Wimberly, are self-professed MSU fans.

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And what did he say led him to this conclusion?

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

True statement.

The topic of this thread is why I get all my MS team media coverage here. If it's relevant and worth a read, it'll be discussed or linked here.

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I do the exact same thing. Anything sports related is covered on this board with out the slanted views. I quit reading or listening to Mississippi media long time ago. So much more enjoyable that way.

I get all my info here as well but it just pisses me off when I want to listen to the radio on the commute and it?s so damn cynical and loathe some. Everybody wants to be he contrarian now. It?s old

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Originally Posted by HaggardDawg

Why is it that sports media in MS feel the need to constantly belittle the teams in this state? What?s the gain for them? Are they seeking national cred? From Bo arguing hypotheticals with people about who he ?thinks? Mullen would leave us for to Jake being overly pessimistic on everything to Weiner talking for 20 minutes yesterday about he believes there?s no doubt MSU basketball is in trouble over the FBI probe saying ?why would any player want to go there and out of the blue they start getting players?. Hell it might be true but at the his point there is no evidence for any of these accusations whether it?s what job Mullen would take to trouble with basketball.

I?ve lived in 4 states and the local media there never talked about their programs like these guys do. If it warranted, like OM NCAA stuff, Redmond, etc that?s fine and fair game.

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I wouldn't call Wimberley and Weiner Ms Media. Hell, they have maybe 75-100 listeners a day, if that.

And here is how it works... they buy the time from espn and then try to sell ads to cover the cost. Lucky if they even break even.

Wimberly still thinks Acy has it on the ball. They are best buddies who like to hear their selves talk.

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Originally Posted by Spiderman

I wouldn't call Wimberley and Weiner Ms Media. Hell, they have maybe 75-100 listeners a day, if that.

And here is how it works... they buy the time from espn and then try to sell ads to cover the cost. Lucky if they even break even.

Wimberly still thinks Acy has it on the ball. They are best buddies who like to hear their selves talk.

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Nice

Wiener was back on it today on OOB that there's no reason for recruits to go to Starkville and that he's certain we're cheating our asses off. And then you have Jackson agreeing with him. However, I don't think I've ever heard Jackson have an opinion, he just mumbles about something, then the host says something different, and then jackson's like *mumble mumble* you're right *mumble*

It's not just Sports unfortunately.... a lot of the media just can't imagine anything good going on in this State. We, as a people, are the kings of poor-mouthing ourselves.

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Originally Posted by louisvilledawg

Wiener was back on it today on OOB that there's no reason for recruits to go to Starkville and that he's certain we're cheating our asses off. And then you have Jackson agreeing with him. However, I don't think I've ever heard Jackson have an opinion, he just mumbles about something, then the host says something different, and then jackson's like *mumble mumble* you're right *mumble*

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I've heard that Jackson dude. I thought he was slow at first, now I attribute it copious amounts of ganja.

Ole boy sounds like he just got through burning one every time he talks.

Someone called into Bo's show this morning (Weiner is guest hosting), and asked him about his statements about MSU basketball being involved with this scandal and about his claim that no good recruits would want to come to Starkville.

His response was basically "I didn't say MSU was in trouble or that good recruits won't go there, I just said MSU is in trouble and good recruits won't go there".

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Originally Posted by MadDawg

Someone called into Bo's show this morning (Weiner is guest hosting), and asked him about his statements about MSU basketball being involved with this scandal and about his claim that no good recruits would want to come to Starkville.

His response was basically "I didn't say MSU was in trouble or that good recruits won't go there, I just said MSU is in trouble and good recruits won't go there".

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He?s a clown.

Push down on that Tune button... let em fade off into oblivion. They say that crap to get fans talking like here. People talk about what what a radio douche says and others start to listen

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Originally Posted by MadDawg

Someone called into Bo's show this morning (Weiner is guest hosting), and asked him about his statements about MSU basketball being involved with this scandal and about his claim that no good recruits would want to come to Starkville.

His response was basically "I didn't say MSU was in trouble or that good recruits won't go there, I just said MSU is in trouble and good recruits won't go there".

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I don't understand why this mantra is repeated. You can't tell me recruits go to Kansas because they have a great school or location. Howland has proven he can take teams to the Final Four. He has also proven he can develop players and get them to the NBA. Westbrook wasn't a 5 star can't miss prospect and now he is the NBA MVP. Howland had something to do with developing a 3 star recruit into one of the best all around players in the NBA in the last decade.

Does he say that when MSU baseball gets a good recruit? For over a decade, MSU basketball had one of the top 4 teams in the SEC so it isn't like we have never had success.

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Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe

I don't understand why this mantra is repeated. You can't tell me recruits go to Kansas because they have a great school or location. Howland has proven he can take teams to the Final Four. He has also proven he can develop players and get them to the NBA. Westbrook wasn't a 5 star can't miss prospect and now he is the NBA MVP. Howland had something to do with developing a 3 star recruit into one of the best all around players in the NBA in the last decade.

Does he say that when MSU baseball gets a good recruit? For over a decade, MSU basketball had one of the top 4 teams in the SEC so it isn't like we have never had success.

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He said that no players that are being recruited now have even heard of any of the great former players that went to MSU. So that means nothing to them. And of course he added that all of the good players Stansbury landed were because he was cheating too.

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Originally Posted by MadDawg

Someone called into Bo's show this morning (Weiner is guest hosting), and asked him about his statements about MSU basketball being involved with this scandal and about his claim that no good recruits would want to come to Starkville.

His response was basically "I didn't say MSU was in trouble or that good recruits won't go there, I just said MSU is in trouble and good recruits won't go there".

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So basically Wiener has no clue of what he actually said. So was and is are the major differences in what he said? Brilliant Wiener.

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Originally Posted by MadDawg

He said that no players that are being recruited now have even heard of any of the great former players that went to MSU. So that means nothing to them. And of course he added that all of the good players Stansbury landed were because he was cheating too.

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Apparently he must think in his feeble uninformed mind, that we cheat in everything. I'm glad I didn't listen to that crap.

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Originally Posted by louisvilledawg

Wiener was back on it today on OOB that there's no reason for recruits to go to Starkville and that he's certain we're cheating our asses off. And then you have Jackson agreeing with him. However, I don't think I've ever heard Jackson have an opinion, he just mumbles about something, then the host says something different, and then jackson's like *mumble mumble* you're right *mumble*

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Seems like Jackson's mission on the show is to be a "Yes Man". Your opinion in that case has already been determined so you just mumble and agree.

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Originally Posted by yjnkdawg

Seems like Jackson's mission on the show is to be a "Yes Man". Your opinion in that case has already been determined so you just mumble and agree.

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I didn't know until recently that Jackson is a State fan. Back in the Freezes heyday I would've sworn and bet insane amounts of $$$ that an Ole Miss degree hung on his wall.

Why are all media people connected MSU so anti MSU?

Message board effect.

1. Say something overly critical of your own team.
2. When called on it, say ?I?m being a realist?

In a court of law it?s called a statement against interests. It appears to have more credibility. Notice I said appears.

It?s why Neal McCready is constantly trying to run from the term ?fanboy?. He wants so badly to be taken seriously by national media.

Unless being a fanbase journalist is what you want for a career, it?s a death knell for those who don?t. Thus, they try to appear to be credible with clickbait statements they know aren?t true.

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

**** that guy ...
his last name is Weiner for ****s sake
See it's jack ****s that say shit like this and when it doesn't happen it's swept under the rug and no one remembers but if by some chance something does he is the first to suck his own cock saying told ya so even tho he has zero sources or evidence to back it up .

ED lobbed all u media ****s a softball with Freeze and om 4 years ago and no one ran with it . If any one of u *****s would of had the balls to do something with it maybe ur careers would have gotten some good run ..

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Gonna give this truth ****ing post a Saturday beat Kentucky football bump.