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Listened to him on Dan Patrick show.
Doesn't seem to give us much chance, and said if we lose we are definitely out. Reason - OOC schedule and Kentucky, Vandy.
I'm ok with him not giving us a chance in this game, but this talking point about our schedule is BS. I don't understand why any of these people interviewing them don't say "What about their complete schedule versus the other teams?"
Frustrating.
If we lose to Bama Saturday and we get knocked out of the top 4, I will never watch College Football again. That will be a travesty
Technically, wouldn't our loss to a #5 (CFP) Alabama team still be better than Alabama's loss to a #10 (CFP) Ole Miss team?
Gary is spot on.. We have no shot . Because the last 5 years we haven't been able to run the ball and score on them...Quote:
Originally Posted by cheewgumm
Gary may have done that interview from Sabans office wearing the Bears houndstooth hat ...
Why are pro-SEC people like Danielson and Finebaum knocking us?
Shouldn't they be taking up for us? I wonder if they would be against Bama if they were in the same situation as MSU?
I watched the CFB Experts show on ESPN yesterday and they all agreed an 11-1 State is in the playoff. They all seemed to think we were going to finish 11-1 as well- except Kevin Carter said he liked our chances Saturday
I listed to Danielson on Finebaum yesterday and they both seemed to think this game could easily go either way.
Well, that's good to hear. I'm amazed someone doesn't say "Yeah, they played UT Martin, but they also played 1) @ LSU, 2) Auburn, 3) @ Bama, 4) @ Ole Miss.
NO TEAM IN THE COUNTRY (outside of the SEC) plays 4 tougher opponents!! Not one.
I heard Danielson on Finebuam yesterday and he gave a fair asssesment of our game. He likes our front 7, but thinks our secondary could have problems containing Cooper. He thinks we score around 20 points and he said he could see us holding Bama to 17 or Bama could score 38. Neither would suprise him because he thinks "Bama is a 20% better football team at home than on the road". He complimented Dak and J-Rob and thought Mullen would have a good plan.
Because we're not good for business in their eyes. Finebaum built his kingdom off of bama and auBarn fans and Danielson is just going with what he is familiar with.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
The funny thing is all these people wouldn't be saying any of this if we'd have scheduled Iowa State instead of UAB, just because Iowa State happens to play in a Power 5 conference... As if that game would have been any harder.
Again, look at the entire schedule, not just OOC. We will have played one of the top 20 overall schedules in the country by the end of the year (we're around 40 right now with @ Bama and @ UM still to go). Most of these other one-loss teams have a SOS that is much worse than that- but because they played a power 5 school in their OOC, they are automatically ahead of us? It's just ridiculous. So who you schedule in the four OOC games carries more weight than how you performed in the 8-9 SEC games? It makes zero sense.
By the end of the season, we will have played five teams that either are in top 10 or were in the top 10 at some point. How many non-SECW teams can say that? I doubt there are any. And it's like that every ****ing year. Let Oregon or TCU play our conference schedule year-in and year-out, then they'll see why we (and most other SECW schools) have to schedule easy teams OOC.
And how could they possibly criticize us for playing Vandy and UK? That's just who happened to roll on the schedule from the SECE this year.
Heck Finebaum said if we win we should be ranked something higher than 1.
Not only all of that, but the bIG12 doesn't even have a conference championship game. So not only do we play in the toughest division, but we also have to face the best team from the east in the championship game. If they're going to compare, let's at least make it apples to apples...Quote:
Originally Posted by messageboardsuperhero
Amazing how Danielson came to the 20% conclusion when Bama has played much tougher teams on the road than at home. I'd love to hear his formula on how he came to that conclusionQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Listened to the CFP dude on ESPNU last night. Sounds like they are putting a bunch of emphasis on how many top 25 teams you have played and the outcome of those games. I don't think they are paying much attention to games you played against teams not in the top 25, unless you lost to one if those teams.
Especially when they decide who is in the top 25 and who isn't. For example: Utah is ranked in the top 25 at 6-3 and Minnesota is ranked in the top 25 at 7-2. Yes Minnesota, Arkansas would beat Minnesota by 20 pointsQuote:
Originally Posted by hdc
Well if that's the case Bama PR must have called him right after that and ripped his ass... Because today you would have thought we were a 6-3 team at best with no shot ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
If the OOC mattered why isn't it effecting us now? Why isn't OOC effecting Bama now? I am so sick of hearing these so called know it all.
By the way Brad Edwards said the exact same thing. You have to wondered is someone scripting them.
weird. Hoops gave a pretty good recap of what he said above. Sounded very neutral on Finebaum.Quote:
Originally Posted by mic
unless we schedule and play ourselves, our schedule won't be tough enough.***
But once we beat ourselves we won't get credit because we'd then be having a down yearQuote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
It does seem like the longer we hang around, the narrative of who the best team is constantly changes. If our schedule is so weak, how did we go from un-ranked to the #1 team in the country in the shortest of amount of time in the history of CFB?
I would be willing to bet that before this season started Danielson could not have named more than 3 players on our entire roster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX
It don't matter. 2 touchdowns.
Don't leave A&M off that list....everybody is discounting that win because they got their ass handed to them by three top 10 teams in a row, but they are 7-3 (including a road win against #3 Auburn) and ranked #24 in the latest CFP poll.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheewgumm
The narrative changes because people get bored with the same team atop the polls, week after week. Fans want turmoil and debate. Media outlets especially want it.
State was the hottest thing ever right after the Auburn game, but now we're old news and "haven't played great" in the eyes of everyone who hasn't watched us and doesn't know our team dynamic.
Anybody remember how tired we got of FSU last year? It was awful. How about Notre Dame a few years ago? Every not-#1 fan base in the country wants the top team to be "not as good as the polls say" because they want to believe their 1-loss team has a shot at getting in. It's only gotten worse this year with the playoff –*which was the intent all along. Make more money by making fans crazier.
He Seen ItQuote:
Originally Posted by I seen it dawg
Well, they also want to see us beat any unranked team we play by 20+ points (given we are #1) and we just aren't really built to do that. We just don't have so many top talented players that we can come into a game that we aren't fired up for and walk all over someone.Quote:
Originally Posted by mewrite
Actually we are built that way and we can and have walked over people. There is a plan in place to win the whole thing and it takes a whole season to do that. Winning by 70 every Saturday does not give us the best chance to reach our goals. Besides Auburn we haven't played anyone yet that we couldn't beat as absolutely as bad as we wanted to. And Auburn will be the only team we play this year that falls into that category.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
Which is why I like this playoff committee. They actually watch games and grade teams on the eye test. If you look at our games, we haven't really been tested in any game. We dominated LSU, even if the score didn't reflect it. A&M wasn't as close as the score. We beat Auburn by 15 points. We have been dominant, and the committee has seen that. I believe we will be dominant again Saturday.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
Arizona State was beaten by 35 points at home this year and is ranked 6th... Eye test?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb
First round bye. No pressure to win the SEC CG.Quote:
Originally Posted by archdog
All they see is we didn't put a beatdown on KY or Ark. Yes, we have a plan, but we can't give our 2nd teamers meaningful reps and blow people away. We just aren't that talented from top to bottom on our roster.Quote:
Originally Posted by I seen it dawg
I seen that too. I seen every national sports writers write stuff about us up to about 2 weeks ago. They wrote stuff going to lengths to describe that were aren't a fluke and that we've been kicking the shit out of everybody we play right up to the point were we let our scrubs have some practice. The whole country was saying in unison, "Mississippi State is not only good, they are dominant, and they are for real".Quote:
Originally Posted by I seen it dawg
That one loss was to a highly ranked team (at the time) and they have two really good wins. But we all know sixth is as high as they are going to go because their resume just doesn't compare to the teams above them, and it's likely that they get jumped, even if they win out. But yes, the eye test probably has more to do with where they are than anything else. If they just looked at scores, ASU wouldn't be sixth.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg