https://www.freep.com/story/sports/m...key/744602002/
"Spider Monkey is not a nickname I have been called or I'm familiar with," Stumpf told the Free Press.
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https://www.freep.com/story/sports/m...key/744602002/
"Spider Monkey is not a nickname I have been called or I'm familiar with," Stumpf told the Free Press.
It should never come to that. People are just a bunch of babies. Crap like this is what backs up the court system when all they had to do was sit the two guys down and let them work it out like men. Nobody wants to do that these days. They just fire the guy because somebody just thinks something racial was said.
Stumpf came out and said that he?s never been called Spider Monkey, much less by anybody in the organization. In other words, the pitching coach is full of it. He used a slur. Did you really think the Cubs would do that without investigating the claim? Rich folks are way harder to fire because they can lawyer up.
Eh...that doesn't really dismantle his story. Not to defend him because I don't know what was said or meant by it BUT in a team setting it wouldn't be uncommon for coaches to refer to a player by a nickname and it not be used to their face. And he could have been telling someone how he looked like a "spider monkey" and then just described what happened by sayin it was like a nickname.
I do not find it hard to believe that an MLB coach would make insensitive comments...I just think it adds to the notion of folks being overly sensitive and wanting to be offended.
Now if he was being obviously racist and mean spirited in that...he got what he deserved. But how sensitive do you hafta be not to get fired? Does insensitive equal racist? I've been around a ton of insensitive jokes that were funny as hell that had nothing to do with race?? So I guess I just don't understand the description of the comments that were a firable offense.
https://deadspin.com/report-fired-ti...bho-1827241045
Bosio called the attendant, who is African-American, a “monkey,” according to four team sources. The remark was directed toward the young man, who was collecting towels from the coaches’ room at the time, during a post-game gripe session in which Bosio was lamenting about a pitcher.
During this exchange, Bosio made a derogatory comment about one of the Tigers pitchers and then gestured toward the attendant before adding, “like this monkey here,” the sources said. The attendant pushed back at Bosio for the comment, and an additional team employee witnessed the exchange. Bosio was provided an opportunity to apologize to the attendant after his outburst but declined to do so, according to multiple sources.
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Like I said, there was literally no way a team fired a him for the story he told, and his story definitely sounded like the story of a guy trying to save his reputation and career.
It's still amazing to me how words just hurt so deeply. It's just words. It's not a knife or a bullet or a stick. Someone call you or me a name so what. I'm just of the opinion that if being called a name is that bad for you then it's your problem and maybe you need to toughen up a little and learn to ignore stupid shit.
ETA to make it thread relevant...if Bosio did make the comment toward the clubhouse guy who is just there picking up towels or whatever then he should be fired for being a ****ing idiot bc he's too stupid to work in MLB. Clubhouse guy doesn't have shit to do with the baseball game. Coach your pitchers better asshat.
Racial slurs don't offend white people the same way they do minorities. That's just the truth of it and it's probably scientifically provable. You can't really say anything racist towards a white person. Honkey, redneck, cracker?? White people just laugh at them. Racial slurs have been used for thousands of years as a means to dehumanize or remind someone they are considered the lesser race in society. So you and I and all other white people don't really understand why it's such a big deal because we can't understand it. Words are powerful. Especially when using one immediately reminds someone of thousands of years of slavery, genocide etc...
“America, Home of the offended”