Baseball winter meetings, anything interesting besides the Yankees stealing Stanton?

Jeter seems in over his head in Miami. What did Jeter do between playing and Miami to prepare himself for running a team? Braves trading Kemp seems like an ok deal just getting his contract off the payroll and opening up a spot for Acuna. How much did losing the International players screw the future plans?

Any teams improve themselves for next year besides the Yanks and the Angels winning the lottery for the Japan Babe Ruth?

I am not much on the NBA so except for football recruiting which I dislike because of flipmas, baseball seems like the next best thing to talk about.

The Yankees did not steal Stanton. That contract is insane.

Yankees gonna Yankee. get used to it. have you not already?

Angels made a couple nice moves. Phillies too.

I'm happy the Cardinals picked up Ozuna and Gregorson. And I think they laid the groundwork to get some other deals done. If they end up with Machado and Ozuna I would take that over just Stanton.

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Originally Posted by smootness

The Yankees did not steal Stanton. That contract is insane.

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People have missed the boat on the Yankees. This isn’t the old Yankees.

They did this correctly with prospects that were drafted and developed

People keep wanting to say this is the old Yankees but their payroll will be less this year than last year.

The Yankees are a really well run team now that drafts and develops at a high level but, due to their perception, people have missed that.

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Originally Posted by smootness

The Yankees did not steal Stanton. That contract is insane.

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JD Martinez is looking for close to the same kind of contract. If you believe that Stanton is going to stay at this pace or improve then you get a MVP level player wrapped up for his career. There is a lot of risk there but you probably get him cheaper than someone like Bryce Harper. Stanton is basically getting Albert Pujols money. The Yankees also have 2 of the premier HR hitters in the last decade on the same team. The Yankees might not have "stolen" him but they got the MVP at a pretty damn cheap price.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

People have missed the boat on the Yankees. This isn’t the old Yankees.

They did this correctly with prospects that were drafted and developed

People keep wanting to say this is the old Yankees but their payroll will be less this year than last year.

The Yankees are a really well run team now that drafts and develops at a high level but, due to their perception, people have missed that.

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People forget that the "Old Yankees" (assuming this means 90s and early 00s) were built around a core of Yankee drafted/developed players. Posada, Jeter, Bernie Williams, Rivera, Soriano, and Pettite were all Yankee developed. Sanchez, Judge, Bird, Severino, Montgomery, Holder all give them a solid core to plug people in around.

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Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe

JD Martinez is looking for close to the same kind of contract. If you believe that Stanton is going to stay at this pace or improve then you get a MVP level player wrapped up for his career. There is a lot of risk there but you probably get him cheaper than someone like Bryce Harper. Stanton is basically getting Albert Pujols money. The Yankees also have 2 of the premier HR hitters in the last decade on the same team. The Yankees might not have "stolen" him but they got the MVP at a pretty damn cheap price.

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Stanton has played 122 games (3/4 of a season) in only 4 of his 8 seasons. There is risk

Judge had an ops in his rookie year about .150 points more than his milb career avg. I expect some major regression this year

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Stanton has played 122 games (3/4 of a season) in only 4 of his 8 seasons. There is risk

Judge had an ops in his rookie year about .150 points more than his milb career avg. I expect some major regression this year

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I think with Stanton's no trade clause that Jeter just did not handle it very well. Everything I have read seems like he panicked because he tried to work out a deal without actually approaching Stanton first with which clubs he would ok going to.

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Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe

JD Martinez is looking for close to the same kind of contract. If you believe that Stanton is going to stay at this pace or improve then you get a MVP level player wrapped up for his career. There is a lot of risk there but you probably get him cheaper than someone like Bryce Harper. Stanton is basically getting Albert Pujols money. The Yankees also have 2 of the premier HR hitters in the last decade on the same team. The Yankees might not have "stolen" him but they got the MVP at a pretty damn cheap price.

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But even if his contract is just the market value for him (a best-case for the Yankees), you're not going to have to give up much in terms of talent to get him because of that. Nobody would consider getting Stanton on that contract a 'steal' if they just signed him in FA. So why should we consider it that when they have to pay him that contract while also giving up some level of talent?

You give up talent for a player when you get him on a contract less than market value. But if you're just paying him market value, why would you need to give up much in addition to that?