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I know we Braves fans don't have a whole lot to look forward to this season, so I thought I would give us a great moment in Braves history for your viewing pleasure.
For those of us old enough to have seen this, it is simply known as "The Fight"
Ah the memories - Kurt Bevaqua, Champ Summers, Alan Wiggins, The Goose & Garvey against Murph, Bob Watson, Brad Komminsk, and full perm and arm cast Bob Horner plus a couple of fans!
http://youtu.be/P61A9D4YqD4
I'm actually excited for this year. Not because of the major league team winning games, I don't expect that to happen and don't really care if it does, to be honest.
But we'll get to see the first wave of young talent coming up - I expect to see Blair, Newcomb, Jenkins, and Mallex at a minimum this year, along with the further development of Folty, Banuelos, Wisler, Olivera, etc. And I think there's a chance we see Swanson, Sims, and maybe Albies as well.
And then there's the minor league system. I plan to be a frequent visitor to Rome games this year. It's gonna be fun.
Wonder how high P Perez was that nightQuote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
It's gonna be a long year for my Braves but I'm gonna focus on watching the young pitchers. There's some good young talent there. Gonna be in Atlanta on business in 3 weeks and gonna catch a couple games.
I remember this lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
I know that the organization has been stockpiling young talent which is great. But you still have to have someone who can TEACH them and right now Fredi G and McDowell aren't them. Hell those two will probably ruin there arms in the next 2 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
I think McDowell is a really good pitching coach. Not sure why you think he's terrible.
Not sticking up for fredi? I wouldn't either and I agree about McDowellQuote:
Originally Posted by smootness
One reason, he will not stand up to Fredi G's overuse of the pitchers. I look to FG being gone once the move is made though.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
Heck no.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I don't even know what this means. McDowell is a good pitching coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by parabrave
I will say this about the pitching coach. I think Roger has done a good job overall, but ever since the Braves abandoned Leo's throwing program, we have seen an exponential increase in arm injuries and re-injuries.
Under Leo, the Braves rarely had an arm injury. Steve Avery's shoulder is the most notable, and obviously John Smoltz had some issues.
I think it would be an interesting case study to evaluate throwing programs and their effects on arm injuries. A lot of arm injuries today are due to overuse at a younger age, and I'm not sure a throwing program will be much help for that.
I do feel Leo's throwing program had the perfect balance of proper rest and on the side throwing to maintain arm strength.
Overuse of pitchers, JV is a prime example. heck 3 dam good pitchers ruined by Fredi. Smoot is right never saw this under Leo or Bobby.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
http://www.sbnation.com/longform/201...rofile-feature
Fantastic article from May of 2015 on Leo Mazzone.
Braves announced that Frenchy made the opening day roster. He may do us some good as a pinch hitter.
My biggest criticism of Roger is that I think he is below average at identifying mechanical issues and correcting them in pitchers. He does a great job with sinker ball pitchers, but I don't think he handles finesse pitchers who need to vary their speed and deliveries very well.Quote:
Originally Posted by parabrave
Think about it this way. With Leo, Steve Avery had a shoulder issue that ended his career, and John Smotlz and Mike Hampton had ulnar collateral ligament tears. That's pretty much it as far as arm injuries.
With Roger, just off the top of my head, Brandon Beachy, Kris Medlin, Johnny Venters, EOF, Tim Hudson are pitchers that have had UCL replacement surgery, and Smoltz blew out his shoulder under Roger.
Well this was known the minute he was signed. He has had a good spring training but how long till he become a strike our dping rally killing machine again.Quote:
Originally Posted by RocketCityDawg
I'm not so sure it was a done deal when he signed, but he did have a good Spring and earned his spot. His right handed bat off of the bench will be tons better than anything we had last year. Now, if he were a full time starter, I would be dreading what you mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by parabrave
I wonder how much this coincides with year-round tourney ball with that generation of pitchers. Seems McDowell isn't the only pitching coach dealing with arm troubleQuote:
Originally Posted by KB21
I think its got a lot to do with it. Those young arms need an offseason. Coaches are trying to fix it with pitch counts, but it's more about appearances then pitches for young arms.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7